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Is PMI-ACP the next step after earning the PMP?
I earned the PMP and want to continue sharpening the skills in Agile work and methodology. I am thinking about taking the PMI-ACP certification and am wondering if anyone out there has advice or suggestions on if this is an intelligent step and if so what training you would recommend, or if there is a more recommended certification for a senior pm role. Thank you for your thoughts!
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Joshua

Congrats on earning your PMP credential. Now, whether the ACP is the right next step or not, this is all dependent on your career plans and how this fits into the overall picture (i.e. will it add value to your goals?).

I personally would recommend this as a next step if it does complement your long term goals.

Good Luck
RK
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1 reply by Joshua Hestand
Nov 28, 2021 9:25 AM
Joshua Hestand
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Thank you for your response, Rami. The agile cert will certainly augment my skillset in the IT PM world and will help in continuing education.
Dear Joshua
In 2013 I became a PMP
The PMBOK Guide 6th Edition, in addition to bringing the Agile Guide, addressed topics related to agility in all areas of knowledge.
The tailoring concept was reinforced

After reading the PMBOK Guide 7th Edition and having attended a presentation of the "new" triangle of talent, my conviction that knowing different approaches to project development will be fundamental for the practice of the profession of Project Manager
The certification that allows for this vision is the PMI-ACP
In 2021 I was certified.

This certification was designed by Mike Griffiths and his team
He has published a very important book on the topic: "PMI-ACP Exam Prep" which helps us on the exam preparation journey
On this site below, in addition to preparation training for the PMI-ACP certification exam you will find an exam simulator in line with Mike Griffiths' book
https://rmcls.com/pmi-acp-certification-resources/
From the PMI, I earned PMP, PMI-PBA, PMI-ACP. I spent time and effort on this because two things: 1-my personal estimation about future market demands, in my case "market" is the whole world for the time of initiatives I am involved. 2-my personal consideration about is the path a project/program/portfolio manager need to take into account to perform the role in diverse domains. The key point is what does mean "intelligent step" for you.
Nov 28, 2021 1:30 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Joshua

Congrats on earning your PMP credential. Now, whether the ACP is the right next step or not, this is all dependent on your career plans and how this fits into the overall picture (i.e. will it add value to your goals?).

I personally would recommend this as a next step if it does complement your long term goals.

Good Luck
RK
Thank you for your response, Rami. The agile cert will certainly augment my skillset in the IT PM world and will help in continuing education.
Joshua -

The ACP is one of the few methodology/framework/toolkit agnostic certifications out there, and with close to 50K folks certified already, there is "some" recognition of it by recruiters and hiring managers but not as much as the long standing (e.g. CSM, SAFe) methodology-focused ones.

There is also some risk that PMI might drop the ACP at some point as part of a normalization of their credentials based on their focus on Disciplined Agile.

Kiron
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2 replies by James Dunn and Luis Branco
Nov 28, 2021 2:34 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
I had the opportunity to see the PMI framework certification (presented at this year's LIM)
It has several levels:
- Entry
- Associate
- Professional
- Master
- Executive

For each of these levels there is a set of certifications in that framework, namely
- PMI Project Management Ready
- CAPM
- PMP, PMI-ACP and PMI-PBA
- PgMP and PfMP

There is a pathway to DA certifications
For example, for the Professional level the certification is DA Senior Scrum Master (DASSM)
Therefore, I consider it unlikely that PMI will end up with PMI-ACP certification

On the other hand, the number of PM-ACP certificates, in addition to being growing, is higher than all people certified in the DA (all certifications)

Ending PMI-ACP certification would therefore be "shooting a bullet in the foot"
Dec 31, 2021 10:50 AM
James Dunn
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Hey Kiron, I'm curious about your opinion of PSM/PSPO compared to CSM/CSPO ? I have PSM I. I believe when I did the exam it was significantly cheaper than the CSM but on the other hand you needed to achieve a much higher grade to receive the certification. It was something like a 60% or higher compared to 85% or higher. Something like that. Do you believe they are viewed the same or is one more sought after? They both seem to have similar levels (3).
Nov 28, 2021 9:32 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Joshua -

The ACP is one of the few methodology/framework/toolkit agnostic certifications out there, and with close to 50K folks certified already, there is "some" recognition of it by recruiters and hiring managers but not as much as the long standing (e.g. CSM, SAFe) methodology-focused ones.

There is also some risk that PMI might drop the ACP at some point as part of a normalization of their credentials based on their focus on Disciplined Agile.

Kiron
Dear Kiron
I had the opportunity to see the PMI framework certification (presented at this year's LIM)
It has several levels:
- Entry
- Associate
- Professional
- Master
- Executive

For each of these levels there is a set of certifications in that framework, namely
- PMI Project Management Ready
- CAPM
- PMP, PMI-ACP and PMI-PBA
- PgMP and PfMP

There is a pathway to DA certifications
For example, for the Professional level the certification is DA Senior Scrum Master (DASSM)
Therefore, I consider it unlikely that PMI will end up with PMI-ACP certification

On the other hand, the number of PM-ACP certificates, in addition to being growing, is higher than all people certified in the DA (all certifications)

Ending PMI-ACP certification would therefore be "shooting a bullet in the foot"
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Nov 29, 2021 7:51 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Agreed - if you look at it purely from a revenue perspective, the ACP is a good source of ongoing cash flow for PMI. But from a practitioner perspective, the tendency with most hiring managers is to look for specialists and not generalists and the ACP is a generalist credential.

Kiron
I highly doubt PMI will discontinue the PMI-ACP but you never know, they’ve done some changes in the past few years that weren’t expected.
Nov 28, 2021 2:34 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
I had the opportunity to see the PMI framework certification (presented at this year's LIM)
It has several levels:
- Entry
- Associate
- Professional
- Master
- Executive

For each of these levels there is a set of certifications in that framework, namely
- PMI Project Management Ready
- CAPM
- PMP, PMI-ACP and PMI-PBA
- PgMP and PfMP

There is a pathway to DA certifications
For example, for the Professional level the certification is DA Senior Scrum Master (DASSM)
Therefore, I consider it unlikely that PMI will end up with PMI-ACP certification

On the other hand, the number of PM-ACP certificates, in addition to being growing, is higher than all people certified in the DA (all certifications)

Ending PMI-ACP certification would therefore be "shooting a bullet in the foot"
Agreed - if you look at it purely from a revenue perspective, the ACP is a good source of ongoing cash flow for PMI. But from a practitioner perspective, the tendency with most hiring managers is to look for specialists and not generalists and the ACP is a generalist credential.

Kiron
I understood @Kiron´s line of thinking above. Then if you follow this line of thinking forget DA and go for Scrum related certifications and training.
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Nov 30, 2021 3:30 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Absolutely Sergio! If the main driver for getting a certification is to maximize Google search hits, then a Scrum or SAFe-based credential is the way to go. If learning is the desired objective and demonstrating awareness of more than just one tool, then DA certs would be a better bet, or at least combine the Scrum-centric certification with one in Kanban and be aware of XP and DSDM's contributions to the agile landscape...

Kiron
Nov 30, 2021 2:01 PM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I understood @Kiron´s line of thinking above. Then if you follow this line of thinking forget DA and go for Scrum related certifications and training.
Absolutely Sergio! If the main driver for getting a certification is to maximize Google search hits, then a Scrum or SAFe-based credential is the way to go. If learning is the desired objective and demonstrating awareness of more than just one tool, then DA certs would be a better bet, or at least combine the Scrum-centric certification with one in Kanban and be aware of XP and DSDM's contributions to the agile landscape...

Kiron
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