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Junior vs Intermediate PM

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Hi! I am a PMP without a degree. To become certified, I had to demonstrate 5 years’ experience (under audit) leading projects. Since then, I have worked another 1.5 years as a PM consultant / contractor. The firm I work for classifies a Jr PM as having 2-5 years’ experience and an Intermediate PM as having 5-10 years’ experience. Where does a newly minted PMP fall within this framework? Would I be considered a Jr as I have only had my PMP a short time, or an Intermediate given the five years PM experience prior to certification. Are there any resources available to help me better understand where I fit. Thank you for your time.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Jan 22, 2023 11:55 AM
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You are unique, my friend :-)
That’s what my wife tells me…
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Jan 22, 2023 1:28 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I totally agree with her :-)
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 22, 2023 1:20 PM
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That’s what my wife tells me…
I totally agree with her :-)
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Jan 22, 2023 8:48 AM
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Senior does tend to be the most common term used which I've encountered. I'd stay away from Expert or Master for multiple reasons including:
- no one can claim to be an Expert given the infinite diversity of project contexts. We are all learning...
- the term Master sets my teeth on edge for the same reason it does with Scrum Master...

A different approach which doesn't bring any baggage with it is the one I believe PMI had published in their CDF from a few years back: PM I, PM II, PM III
Where I started out it was all titles. Jr. was 1st year, then came Senior which immediately told me it was a silly system albeit I had a cool title, then specialist, then senior specialist etc.

I have seen the term Master but it was an evolution of political correctness. First it was Senior but that came across as ageist, so they changed it to Veteran but that offended military veterans so it became Master.

That may have come across as racist or perhaps sounded too much like old kung fu movies so they just went to a numbered system instead. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Latha Thamma reddi Sr Product and Portfolio Management (Automation Innovation)| DXC Technology Mckinney, Tx, United States
Thanks for sharing.
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