Christine SmithIT Project Manager| Select MedicalEast Berlin, Pa, United States
My executive leadership team wants to make an evaluation of a solution one project, and the execution of the solution a separate project. To me this should all be under one project. I've struggled to find any documented guidance. Does anyone have direction or thoughts on this? I want to be flexible but also want to stay true to proper project oversight. Saving Changes...
What you describe can help organizing projects at the PMO level.
Before funding a full project, you may require funding for in-depth investigation to determine if a project is merited. On something that is a lengthy process, a process performed in multiple locations or by multiple people, where RFIs are required, etc. it can be a large enough effort to require formal authorization and status accounting.
I am currently in a similar situation where we are working high value process and product improvements. Step 1 is containment where we often put a short term solution in place until a longer term fix is available. Breaking it into 2 projects helps to avoid confusion in our tracking and reporting systems when the containment step is at the implementation phase for example, while the preferred solution may be at the idea generation phase.
Whether it is done as two projects or two phases within the same project, this is something I've run into frequently, especially when there is a desire for firm cost and time estimates on the implementation work. The first project usually involves gathering sufficient requirements to go through an RFI/RFP/vendor selection/contracting exercise and the second is able to be planned with a high degree of confidence given the legwork done in the first one.
I prefer the phased approach as it is hard to justify the costs of the first project based on just having a solid plan and signed contract as key deliverables.
And with the phased approach, a gate would exist between the two phases providing management the opportunity to cut their losses if no solution appears promising.
Kiron
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1 reply by Christine Smith
Feb 10, 2023 5:23 PM
Christine Smith
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I agree completely. Thank you, Kiron.
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Christine SmithIT Project Manager| Select MedicalEast Berlin, Pa, United States
Feb 10, 2023 1:15 PM
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What you describe can help organizing projects at the PMO level.
Before funding a full project, you may require funding for in-depth investigation to determine if a project is merited. On something that is a lengthy process, a process performed in multiple locations or by multiple people, where RFIs are required, etc. it can be a large enough effort to require formal authorization and status accounting.
I am currently in a similar situation where we are working high value process and product improvements. Step 1 is containment where we often put a short term solution in place until a longer term fix is available. Breaking it into 2 projects helps to avoid confusion in our tracking and reporting systems when the containment step is at the implementation phase for example, while the preferred solution may be at the idea generation phase.
Thank you, Keith. I appreciate your input. Saving Changes...
Christine SmithIT Project Manager| Select MedicalEast Berlin, Pa, United States
Feb 10, 2023 4:47 PM
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Christine -
Whether it is done as two projects or two phases within the same project, this is something I've run into frequently, especially when there is a desire for firm cost and time estimates on the implementation work. The first project usually involves gathering sufficient requirements to go through an RFI/RFP/vendor selection/contracting exercise and the second is able to be planned with a high degree of confidence given the legwork done in the first one.
I prefer the phased approach as it is hard to justify the costs of the first project based on just having a solid plan and signed contract as key deliverables.
And with the phased approach, a gate would exist between the two phases providing management the opportunity to cut their losses if no solution appears promising.
Kiron
I agree completely. Thank you, Kiron. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I've had a few of these types of multi-projects. It is usually a gating process: let's invest a little to find out if we want to go further.
Think of it as a series of incremental projects. You get the benefit of learning more in each project which allows you to make better decisions on the next.
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Feb 11, 2023 9:49 AM
Christine Smith
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Great perspective. Thank you.
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Usually, along the years, I was involved to do that in separate projects. To put this in terms of the PMI business analyst (BA) is accountable for all related to evaluation and project manager (PM) for all related to project if it is approved. Obviously, BA will work along the project too. You can find all related to both activities inside the PMI standards. The only thing, in my experience, is some organizations do not consider the evaluation as a project itself. I always try to push it.
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Feb 11, 2023 9:51 AM
Christine Smith
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Thank you for your input.
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Christine SmithIT Project Manager| Select MedicalEast Berlin, Pa, United States
Feb 10, 2023 7:33 PM
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I've had a few of these types of multi-projects. It is usually a gating process: let's invest a little to find out if we want to go further.
Think of it as a series of incremental projects. You get the benefit of learning more in each project which allows you to make better decisions on the next.
Great perspective. Thank you. Saving Changes...
Christine SmithIT Project Manager| Select MedicalEast Berlin, Pa, United States
Feb 11, 2023 5:36 AM
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Usually, along the years, I was involved to do that in separate projects. To put this in terms of the PMI business analyst (BA) is accountable for all related to evaluation and project manager (PM) for all related to project if it is approved. Obviously, BA will work along the project too. You can find all related to both activities inside the PMI standards. The only thing, in my experience, is some organizations do not consider the evaluation as a project itself. I always try to push it.
Thank you for your input. Saving Changes...
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Christine,
in my life I worked mostly on split projects, as we developed proposals for customers and then, after signing, implemented them.
- Having smaller projects increases the probability of success. - Putting experienced PMs on each of the different project types is also a good idea, different skill sets are needed (so we had proposal PMs and delivery PMs). - often success for these types of PMs is defined differently (signings vs. profits) and hence behaviours (e.g. risk attitudes, relationship mgmt) are more to the point - estimates and promises for the implementation project will be much better after you did the analysis project, just because you know more about the solution and already made some decisions - increasing trust and enabling fix price contracts - A problem might be the handover between proposal and delivery, but if it is done well on customer and delivery side it is even beneficial since any hickups from the proposal project are irrelevant. - It also allows for a 3rd type of project: the change management, which again requires different skills and setup - if complexity is high and you need integration on a higher level, a joint steering committee can provide governance, an architecture body can ensure strategic alignments and integration, a PMO can help with e.g. standards, tools, resourcing - and if that all applies you might setup the whole initiative as a program - overall risk is lower Saving Changes...
Latha Thamma reddiSr Product and Portfolio Management (Automation Innovation)| DXC TechnologyMckinney, Tx, United States