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¿Is it possible that AI is on its way to the singularity?

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Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz RYLAI Access Control Quito, Pichincha, Ecuador
Singularity is a hypothetic state in the future, where technological growth will be uncontrollable, acting outside human control, designing their own systems, and surpassing human intelligence. ¿Do you think it will be possible in the future? ¿What are the principal dangers for humanity when this point is reached?
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Verónica -

Barring any extreme intervention, I'd say the likelihood of AI eventually achieving singularity is not a question of "if" but "when".

As far as dangers go, there are certainly the dystopian predictions of movies such as The Terminator or The Matrix.

I'm optimistic that if we manage to survive as a species by the time singularity is reached (taking into account the current very real risks of nuclear war, pandemics and the progressively worsening impacts of climate change), we'd likely have evolved ourselves sufficiently to forge a positive partnership with AI.

And if not, I for one welcome our robot overlords :-)

Kiron
Veronica

I guess we are far behind reaching to such a point. AI is still dummy. A couple of months ago, I read a book by Dr Michio Kaku in which he explained that reaching singularity is till a distant dream and how robots like ASIMO and Sophia preprogrammed and caliberated precisely for public demonstration.
And may be the question you asked is the reason why people across the globe are focusing so much on ethical AI. Over the years, many people have proposed laws/principles for robotics, most prominent of which are by Isaac Asimov:
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
There is a dedicated wikipedia page for that.

The greatest danger, if we reach singularity, I would say we might create something like Ulton by accident. Tay by microsoft was such an example .
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/technol...acist-jerk.html
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1 reply by Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz
Nov 21, 2024 10:08 AM
Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz
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Thanks, Chitranshu MANDHAR for remembering Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics", a set of guidelines for how robots should behave. These laws were mentioned at the beginning of the "I Robot" film.
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Paul Boudreau President| Stonemeadow Consulting Kanata, Ontario, Canada
The question is similar to asking if the world will be wiped out in a nuclear war. So far we have avoided it. The same principles seem to apply to AI though.
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Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz RYLAI Access Control Quito, Pichincha, Ecuador
Sep 30, 2024 2:28 PM
Replying to Chitranshu MANDHAR
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Veronica

I guess we are far behind reaching to such a point. AI is still dummy. A couple of months ago, I read a book by Dr Michio Kaku in which he explained that reaching singularity is till a distant dream and how robots like ASIMO and Sophia preprogrammed and caliberated precisely for public demonstration.
And may be the question you asked is the reason why people across the globe are focusing so much on ethical AI. Over the years, many people have proposed laws/principles for robotics, most prominent of which are by Isaac Asimov:
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
There is a dedicated wikipedia page for that.

The greatest danger, if we reach singularity, I would say we might create something like Ulton by accident. Tay by microsoft was such an example .
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/technol...acist-jerk.html
Thanks, Chitranshu MANDHAR for remembering Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics", a set of guidelines for how robots should behave. These laws were mentioned at the beginning of the "I Robot" film.
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Carl Peters Project Manager & Consultant| https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-peters/ Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
On this topic, I highly recommend listening to the AI topics on the podcast 'Philosophize This' (e.g. on Spotify or Patreon).

Here is a great analogy from this podcast: Just as we, as humans, see bees as beings with a limited understanding of our world, AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) will view us in the same way. For example, we may worry about the rise of neo-fascism, which seems significant to us, but bees would have no capacity to comprehend such a concept. Similarly, AGI will perform actions beyond our comprehension.

This idea ties into the concept of the singularity—the moment when AI surpasses human intelligence. Just as we are far beyond the cognitive abilities of bees, AGI will be so advanced that it will be beyond our understanding, rendering us unable to grasp its decisions or actions, much like how bees cannot grasp the complexities of human society.

In my opinion, the singularity will eventually come. However, it will neither be good nor bad, as AGI will see us in much the same way we see bees.
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2 replies by George Freeman and Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz
Nov 21, 2024 2:05 PM
George Freeman
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Carl,

From a philosophical perspective, consider the following:

[1] Premise:

In the natural order of our cosmos, all things, animate and inanimate, exist within a sea of interdependent lifecycles, purposed patterns that demand fulfillment and replication.

[2] Questions:

Once we surpass AGI and declare a singularity, what should we surmise of its nature, lifecycle purpose, and inevitable demand to replicate likenesses/patterns of itself?

In addition, how can it be neither good nor bad when awareness and adversity of thought force its conclusion to one side or the other?

George
Nov 22, 2024 11:27 AM
Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz
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Carl, this analogy indicating that AGI will see humans as humans currently see bees, leads us to think about whether we want to become the bees of a generation dominated by artificial intelligence.
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George Freeman Thought Leader | Author | Architect| Florida, United States
Nov 21, 2024 12:18 PM
Replying to Carl Peters
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On this topic, I highly recommend listening to the AI topics on the podcast 'Philosophize This' (e.g. on Spotify or Patreon).

Here is a great analogy from this podcast: Just as we, as humans, see bees as beings with a limited understanding of our world, AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) will view us in the same way. For example, we may worry about the rise of neo-fascism, which seems significant to us, but bees would have no capacity to comprehend such a concept. Similarly, AGI will perform actions beyond our comprehension.

This idea ties into the concept of the singularity—the moment when AI surpasses human intelligence. Just as we are far beyond the cognitive abilities of bees, AGI will be so advanced that it will be beyond our understanding, rendering us unable to grasp its decisions or actions, much like how bees cannot grasp the complexities of human society.

In my opinion, the singularity will eventually come. However, it will neither be good nor bad, as AGI will see us in much the same way we see bees.
Carl,

From a philosophical perspective, consider the following:

[1] Premise:

In the natural order of our cosmos, all things, animate and inanimate, exist within a sea of interdependent lifecycles, purposed patterns that demand fulfillment and replication.

[2] Questions:

Once we surpass AGI and declare a singularity, what should we surmise of its nature, lifecycle purpose, and inevitable demand to replicate likenesses/patterns of itself?

In addition, how can it be neither good nor bad when awareness and adversity of thought force its conclusion to one side or the other?

George
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Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz RYLAI Access Control Quito, Pichincha, Ecuador
Nov 21, 2024 12:18 PM
Replying to Carl Peters
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On this topic, I highly recommend listening to the AI topics on the podcast 'Philosophize This' (e.g. on Spotify or Patreon).

Here is a great analogy from this podcast: Just as we, as humans, see bees as beings with a limited understanding of our world, AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) will view us in the same way. For example, we may worry about the rise of neo-fascism, which seems significant to us, but bees would have no capacity to comprehend such a concept. Similarly, AGI will perform actions beyond our comprehension.

This idea ties into the concept of the singularity—the moment when AI surpasses human intelligence. Just as we are far beyond the cognitive abilities of bees, AGI will be so advanced that it will be beyond our understanding, rendering us unable to grasp its decisions or actions, much like how bees cannot grasp the complexities of human society.

In my opinion, the singularity will eventually come. However, it will neither be good nor bad, as AGI will see us in much the same way we see bees.
Carl, this analogy indicating that AGI will see humans as humans currently see bees, leads us to think about whether we want to become the bees of a generation dominated by artificial intelligence.
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1 reply by George Freeman
Nov 22, 2024 1:40 PM
George Freeman
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Well said, Veronica!

And I would add:

If humans unleash an autonomous, unaccountable artificial intelligence for the benefit of society, then the singularity of consequence is the “newly defined demarcation point” that represents the zenith of human potential and its inevitable decline.

George
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George Freeman Thought Leader | Author | Architect| Florida, United States
Nov 22, 2024 11:27 AM
Replying to Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz
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Carl, this analogy indicating that AGI will see humans as humans currently see bees, leads us to think about whether we want to become the bees of a generation dominated by artificial intelligence.
Well said, Veronica!

And I would add:

If humans unleash an autonomous, unaccountable artificial intelligence for the benefit of society, then the singularity of consequence is the “newly defined demarcation point” that represents the zenith of human potential and its inevitable decline.

George

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