Sylvain CarrierRetired| Canadian Forces and Government of CanadaOttawa, Ontario, Canada
I had to do some research to compare the name/structure of project phases in various methodologies and came across an interesting paper by Mounir Ajam.
The paper basically says that PMI/PMBoK has process groups but no project phase/stage structure as such.
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Once again, when you will decide this type of things you have to take into account that it is a strategyc matter. For example, I worked a lot in pharmacy industry. Because you have goverment regulations you have to follow a standard where inside the standard you have the project life cycle defined with all related to it (phases, names, sequence, etc, etc). There is a lot of studies about project life cycles that you can obtain for free inside the internet. And the information is still inside the PMBOK or some PMBOK extensions like the Software extension. Saving Changes...
Anonymous
1. I agree with you best is not eternal in the life of continual improvement --- so maybe considered best today - it might not be tomorrow
2. CII (i am not an expert on them but have decent exposure) - they continue to improve the best practice with newer knowledge. If a practice become quite common they might retire it from their Best Practice list.
The key with CII and IPA is the following: many organizations practice project management - some do it better than others. How?
If we all follow the same "good practice"?
How they do better by building on the foundation, identifying better ways (that work in the industry) for them. Even the PMBOK Guide says it is a good practice - and a good use of the guide may include supplementing it with "industry best practices". In other words, the Guide talks about the existence of Best Practices that might be in the industry (industry specific - like CII).
To close - is not this the same thing as maturity model? Saving Changes...
Sylvain CarrierRetired| Canadian Forces and Government of CanadaOttawa, Ontario, Canada
Very nice of you Mounir. I think it is an interesting point to discuss but maybe it would be better to start a new thread with that title. It would then attract new contributors who may not be interested in the subject of this thread... Saving Changes...
Khai Ng.IT PMO | IT Project Manager| TTGROUPHanoi, Viet Nam
I totally agree with Mounir ajam. The project life cycle (phases) is depended on each type of project and the industry in which a project is carried out. The PMBok just takes care of project management knowledge in general, industry engineers and managers response for project life cycle that can be applicable to their field. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 21, 2016 5:23 AM
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I studied French at school and I had you same problem. I learnt the best way to practice the language is to use it in our job. Fortunately I had some project located in France :)
That's great and working is France is definitely an asset to improve your language :-) Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 21, 2016 5:33 AM
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well, i never studied french in school nor anyway esle .... unfortenatly ... the language of love ... ;) ... sorry for becoming OT ...
We are here to help you anytime Markus :D Saving Changes...
Rebecca BraglioCommunity Engagement Specialist II| Project Management InstituteNewtown Square, Pa, United States
Jan 21, 2016 4:36 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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He was addressing Sylvain and telling him that he received many good explanations and asking him if he wants any explanation in French or if he wants to raise any question in French, he can help him.
Thank you so much Rami for helping out on this! Truly appreciate the kindness.
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Jan 21, 2016 2:22 PM
Rami Kaibni
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No Problem at all, my pleasure - We are here to help each other Rebecca. One Team !
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