Paolo CornaliProject Manager| HTA srlBrescia, Lombardia, Italy
Also in my opinion one charter for one project in order to avoid confusion. If needed the charter may be updated and revised during the project life cycle. Saving Changes...
Product lifecycle is different from project lifecycle. Projects goes through phases depending on the complexity of the project.
For example, when a large project initiated, organization has to verify whether it adds business value. To ensure this the project charter need to be specified to achieve ONLY that level of detail to ensure it is profitable and subsequent to phase gate decisions, project moves to another phase. for more details. Also remember during this period, progressive elaboration of details also happen on other functional or support groups which provides more information on how to develop/define the next phase project output and accordingly the charter will be written ensuring alignment to organization strategic objectives. Saving Changes...
Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
one charter for each project/sub-project imho Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Jan 25, 2016 10:30 AM
Replying to Eduard Hernandez
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Good one, Mounir. I recall following that thread on LinkedIn, it got several reactions.
I am guessing that by giving a hint, you probably know the answer! If I answer by the book, I'd say one project charter. And in my opinion, there should be also only one, which may be then revised or amended following the change authorization circuit.
Hi Eduard - you know that i know the answer but want to have some fun and see the different opinions out there. Hopefully, while having fun we all can share knowledge Saving Changes...
It is a good quastion. The answer depend on how many phases the project manager divided the project and the importance of these phaeses. I think it is requested to use many charter to imphasies the project succses
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1 reply by Markus Kopko
Jan 27, 2016 3:44 AM
Markus Kopko
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Hello Waleed,
if i got you right, than your opinion is, if a project has more than one important phases (btw: how could a phase be not so important?) than we should have a charter for each phase, right?
Well, could you please explain a bit more detailed why you do think so?
I would tend to disagree, but may be i didn't get the point yet.
Thx in advance.
Regards,
Markus
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Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Jan 26, 2016 10:29 AM
Replying to waleed Hafez
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It is a good quastion. The answer depend on how many phases the project manager divided the project and the importance of these phaeses. I think it is requested to use many charter to imphasies the project succses
Hello Waleed,
if i got you right, than your opinion is, if a project has more than one important phases (btw: how could a phase be not so important?) than we should have a charter for each phase, right?
Well, could you please explain a bit more detailed why you do think so?
I would tend to disagree, but may be i didn't get the point yet.
Thx in advance.
Hello Markus
let me explain that . I said( the importance of these phases) it mean all the phases is important but one or more phase are more important and it has greatly affect on the basic objectives of the main Charter therefore we performed many Charters to Serve and enhance Success of the project
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2 replies by Markus Kopko and Rami Kaibni
Jan 27, 2016 8:20 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Hi Waleed,
Can you please elaborate more on how did more charters contribute towards the success of the project ?
If there was more than one major deliverable then it is possible but each will be treated as a separate project I guess.
Jan 28, 2016 2:34 AM
Markus Kopko
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Hello Waleed,
i am sorry, may be it is completly my fault but i still didn't get it really.
I would underline what Rami has written.
Of course, some phases has more impact to that what is written in the charter and since all the project processes and process groups performed iterative and in each phase there will be changes to the charter.
But they have to be performed via change mgmt process and documented in the original charter, since this was somekind of a "living" document, right.
I can't see how may charters should improve project success and/or performance. Furthermore the opposite is the cas i would say; the more charters we have the more overhead we did produce imho.
I do asume we are talking about a project and not about a programm or a really big project what is divided in several sub-projects where each sub-project has it's own charter.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 27, 2016 11:59 AM
Replying to waleed Hafez
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Hello Markus
let me explain that . I said( the importance of these phases) it mean all the phases is important but one or more phase are more important and it has greatly affect on the basic objectives of the main Charter therefore we performed many Charters to Serve and enhance Success of the project
Hi Waleed,
Can you please elaborate more on how did more charters contribute towards the success of the project ?
If there was more than one major deliverable then it is possible but each will be treated as a separate project I guess. Saving Changes...
Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Jan 27, 2016 11:59 AM
Replying to waleed Hafez
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Hello Markus
let me explain that . I said( the importance of these phases) it mean all the phases is important but one or more phase are more important and it has greatly affect on the basic objectives of the main Charter therefore we performed many Charters to Serve and enhance Success of the project
Hello Waleed,
i am sorry, may be it is completly my fault but i still didn't get it really.
I would underline what Rami has written.
Of course, some phases has more impact to that what is written in the charter and since all the project processes and process groups performed iterative and in each phase there will be changes to the charter.
But they have to be performed via change mgmt process and documented in the original charter, since this was somekind of a "living" document, right.
I can't see how may charters should improve project success and/or performance. Furthermore the opposite is the cas i would say; the more charters we have the more overhead we did produce imho.
I do asume we are talking about a project and not about a programm or a really big project what is divided in several sub-projects where each sub-project has it's own charter.
Kind regards,
Markus Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Hi All
Let me clarify a few points and maybe ask more questions.
1. When we are talking about the possibility of multiple charters some are assuming that there could be more than one charter and each is written by a different person, which create confusion. Agree - if we have many charters issued in parallel then of course - there could be conflict and for sure confusion but that is not the intention.
2. I am asking about how many charters along the project life cycle - NOT how many project charter. There should be ONE project charter. However, before we close the point - what is the purpose of the charter? The charter is about authorizing work.
Building on the previous point - PMBOK Guide defines the initiating process group as the processes for the project OR PHASE. The charter is the document that authorize a project or phase.
Further, on a project life cycle with multiple phases - usually we have phase gates - phase exits (unfortunately PMBOK Guide does not emphasize this). These gates are usually to approve the work of the previous phase and management to decide whether to proceed or not. If they decide to proceed and continue with the project - they need to authorize the work. That is the purpose of the charter.
Therefore, every phase should have an authorization (whether you call it a charter or it - is per the org. policy.) One final comment - these authorization are usually separate documents focusing on the objective of the upcoming stage. If there is a need to modify the PROJECT charter, a revised charter can be issued.
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1 reply by Markus Kopko
Jan 28, 2016 4:07 AM
Markus Kopko
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Hello Mounir,
thx for clarifying. I got it know and of course - from that perspective - there could be more than one charter.
Some of our projects are performed along a well defned qualtiy gates process and those projects need a charter for each quality gate.
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