Eric LamySenior Project Manager| Keurig Green MountainNewbury, Ma, United States
I would say that the PMO (if it exists) should have a general standard for project phasing, but that ultimately the decision should be made by or at least led by the project manager. Sometimes a phase is not necessary if the activities one would usually undertake have no meaning or would be superfluous based on external organizational factors, and so sticking doggedly to a single phasing strategy wouldn't be appropriate. Saving Changes...
PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHIGeneral Manager| Transrail Lighting LimitedNainital, Uttrakhand, India
PM can decide it. Also available in organisation database if similar project is previously done. Saving Changes...
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Eric / Pankaj
I am curious - whether there is a PMO or not - are not the type of projects in your organization are similar and they would follow a typical project life cycle and phases? I know there could be exception but I am talking about the general rule.
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2 replies by Eric Lamy and PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHI
Jan 26, 2016 1:26 PM
Eric Lamy
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Mounir,
I work for a consulting agency, so the types of projects I'm engaged with vary from client to client. One phase we often start out with on the first project with a new client is a Client Discovery, which involves learning about the business operations of the client organization, understanding the employee hierarchy, infrastructure, etc. Subsequent to the initial project with that client, we generally would drop that phase as the outputs from it are sufficient inputs to new projects without needing to go through the phase again.
Jan 27, 2016 1:55 AM
PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHI
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I am working in an EPC company and generally all projects are monitored by PMO. They are guiding us with the existing practices and solutions.
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Eric LamySenior Project Manager| Keurig Green MountainNewbury, Ma, United States
Mounir,
I work for a consulting agency, so the types of projects I'm engaged with vary from client to client. One phase we often start out with on the first project with a new client is a Client Discovery, which involves learning about the business operations of the client organization, understanding the employee hierarchy, infrastructure, etc. Subsequent to the initial project with that client, we generally would drop that phase as the outputs from it are sufficient inputs to new projects without needing to go through the phase again. Saving Changes...
Bruce Wilkinson MBA, PMPExpert Project Manager / Trustworthy Executive Assistant / Business Coach| goBRUCE Business ServicesCuenca, Azuay, Ecuador
Eric's response makes a lot of sense in a consultancy. Another situation might be in an internal project for an SMB. The PM would have a lot of say in this situation, as he/she is going to be the one to making the PM magic happen, but certainly other stakeholders will often at least have input, and often more than just input. In my experience, it very much depends on the situation, where the power structures lie, and what makes the most sense. Saving Changes...
I believe PM should take/lead this decision with the help of SMEs/previous project experiences if required. Saving Changes...
Howard LaiPMP, CEng, CPEng, NER, IntPE(Aust), RPEQ, MIET, CSSBB, CISA, ISO9001 LA| QHBrisbane, Queensland, Australia
I think PM can propose the phases breakdown to sponsors before the project is initiated.
The phases most likely are similar to those in PMBOK(r) Guide.
Hope it is helpful.
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Dominic LawProduct Manager| PCCW GlobalHappy Valley, Hong Kong
From experience it would also depend on the deliverables and payment method. It could be in the contract that each phase is already defined, and the associated deliverables and payment per phase. Or there could be a long list of deliverables, that it is an advantage to break that down into chunks of smaller lists to have a faster time-to-market, and call it version x.1, x.2, x.3 etc. I see PM can propose, but of course need to work with all stakeholders to decide on the scope per phase. Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Jan 26, 2016 1:26 PM
Replying to Eric Lamy
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Mounir,
I work for a consulting agency, so the types of projects I'm engaged with vary from client to client. One phase we often start out with on the first project with a new client is a Client Discovery, which involves learning about the business operations of the client organization, understanding the employee hierarchy, infrastructure, etc. Subsequent to the initial project with that client, we generally would drop that phase as the outputs from it are sufficient inputs to new projects without needing to go through the phase again.
Thanks Eric
that makes perfect sense Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Jan 26, 2016 8:56 PM
Replying to Howard Lai
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I think PM can propose the phases breakdown to sponsors before the project is initiated.
The phases most likely are similar to those in PMBOK(r) Guide.
Hope it is helpful.
Thanks
What are the phases in the PMBOK(r) Guide? Saving Changes...
