Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Page 27 inside the PMBOK (and other parts) you can find all related to project life cycle. Project life cycle contains the project phases. Project life cycle must be decided taking into account strategical decisions so a checklist is having to decide about that. More than one project life cycle will be inside the organization and it is selected according to the checklist. Saving Changes...
Narciss PopescuManaging Director| PM ACCESSBucharest, Romania
1. It depends on the organizational structure, processes and responsibilities. It is not a general answer to fit all the situations. However is needed at least project manager buy-in.
2. Yes, it should be. A tailoring guide for some uncommon projects for the organization should be in place as well.
3. This subject is not addressed by PMBOK Guide too much since the subject is industry specific and varies a lot. Only some conceptual things are addressed in PMBOK Guide ed.5 regarding project life cycle types: predictive, iterative and incremental and adaptive life cycles (page 41-46) Saving Changes...
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Sergio
Although I agree with you on your response to this question - not everything is in the PMBOK Guide. The concept of a project life cycle is in the guide but there are no proposed models. Saving Changes...
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Agree with you. Saving Changes...
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In response to this question - some people are saying the PM is the one who decides on a project life cycle. Well, that could be true in organizations where there is no proper organizational project management system or method.
Proper and professional project management call for organizations to build their OPM System, including policies, procedures, guidelines, and methods. Methods are usually built on a project life cycle.
In other word, a petroleum, real estate, technology, or any other organization with some maturity will have one or more standard project life cycle and method that are custom fit (tailored) to the organization's type and class of projects. A project manager, usually does not have the power to change this life cycle, unless the project is highly unique and in a good organization the PM can request a change to the method from the process / method owner.
Again - if no system - it become: recreate the wheel with every project or with every project manager.
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1 reply by PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHI
Jan 31, 2016 7:15 AM
PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHI
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I agree with you Mounir.
Sometime if you don't have PMO which has done similar project then usually this is done based upon the best practices in subject field.
Take the case of startup companies, they hire consultants or recruit the persons from established setups for their PMOs.
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PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHIGeneral Manager| Transrail Lighting LimitedNainital, Uttrakhand, India
I agree with you Mounir.
Sometime if you don't have PMO which has done similar project then usually this is done based upon the best practices in subject field.
Take the case of startup companies, they hire consultants or recruit the persons from established setups for their PMOs. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
That is the problem Mounir, there is a big missunderstanding about the concept (I do not say that you have this missunderstanding). I working with that from years and I am working with that right now. The models is what you have to take into account. The project life cycle must not be in any guide. If you find it inside a guide the worst thing somedody can do is use it without making an analysis to understand if it fits for the initiative. To understand that an enterprise analysis must be done. This is an activity in the field of business analysis and people can find what the activity means inside the IIBA´s BABOK or inside the PMI´s PGBA. The activity name in the first one is strategy analysis and inside the second one is needs analysis. On the other side, you will find domains like pharma where the life cycle to use is defined inside an standard you have to follow because goverment regulations. So, once again, we need to understand the way to select a project life cycle. If not, we will fail. But obviously I do not own the truth and my intention is to contribute to the community with my experience and research because this is a field where we will add value in the future. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
I fully agree with Narciss above. The key thing here is to understand that you have life cycles models to do things and from those models you can define your project life cycle. Life cycle is totally diferent to the approach to take (agile, waterfall, spiral, etc) so you can combine life cycle and approach into your project life cycle. You can have more than one project life cycle to use (in my actual organization we have defined five) because the project life cycle selection depends on multiple factors some of them stated by Narciss and, in my statement, those are components for the enterprise analysis activity. In our case we are using the Tom Peter´s Seven S model as a guide to decide (in this model the factors that Narciss stated are part or it). Saving Changes...
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Jan 31, 2016 8:44 AM
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That is the problem Mounir, there is a big missunderstanding about the concept (I do not say that you have this missunderstanding). I working with that from years and I am working with that right now. The models is what you have to take into account. The project life cycle must not be in any guide. If you find it inside a guide the worst thing somedody can do is use it without making an analysis to understand if it fits for the initiative. To understand that an enterprise analysis must be done. This is an activity in the field of business analysis and people can find what the activity means inside the IIBA´s BABOK or inside the PMI´s PGBA. The activity name in the first one is strategy analysis and inside the second one is needs analysis. On the other side, you will find domains like pharma where the life cycle to use is defined inside an standard you have to follow because goverment regulations. So, once again, we need to understand the way to select a project life cycle. If not, we will fail. But obviously I do not own the truth and my intention is to contribute to the community with my experience and research because this is a field where we will add value in the future.
In agreement with you Sergio Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Thank you very much Mounir. I see your work inside the page you have shared in other discussion and it is very important for me to exchange opinions with you because your work is very interesting. The only thing you have to do is to be patient with my bad english..... Thanks. Saving Changes...
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