Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
We are more familiar with the Known-Unkown Risks but I'm sure everyone has encountered some unknown-unknown risks in their own projects / industry. Can you give an example of a U-U Risk you encountered and what action you had to take? how did it impact the project? Saving Changes...
Bruce Gay Principal Consultant| Astrevo LabsPittsburgh, Pa, United States
One example of unknown unknowns, or unexpected or unforeseeable program conditions, was the enterprise-wide firing and consolidation of multiple Chief Information Officer (CIO) positions at my organization. Several CIOs were key stakeholders and enthusiastic supporters of the program I was managing. Our program leadership, myself included, had to navigate the new landscape of "executive stakeholders" to build support for our efforts. We had to take additional steps to communicate the benefits of the program and to gain trust of the new CIOs. In the end, the impact on the project team was minimal.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 03, 2016 8:52 AM
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Great Example Bruce - I assume there was no delay or additional cost incurred to the project.
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saurabh mahajanPMP, ITIL, PRINCE2| vodafonePune, Maharashtra, India
I faced a U-U Risk when new tool was introduced (which was not in the plan earlier). This impacted the plan itself. In such situation you have re-design the plan and it might impact (+/-ve) you deliverables.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 03, 2016 8:54 AM
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Can you please be more specific with the example in terms of what was the exact risk, what action did you take, and how did it impact the project specifically.
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PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHIGeneral Manager| Transrail Lighting LimitedNainital, Uttrakhand, India
There were payment delays from a new customer in our last project. Our planned cash flow was not working and we were required more finance to run the project. It required a lot of effort to use the management reserves, also finance was not available all the time. It increased our financing cost and delay in our schedule due to lot of internal approvals.
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Feb 03, 2016 8:54 AM
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Another good example Pankaj, thanks. You could not avoid the delay in schedule at all ?
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 02, 2016 7:43 PM
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One example of unknown unknowns, or unexpected or unforeseeable program conditions, was the enterprise-wide firing and consolidation of multiple Chief Information Officer (CIO) positions at my organization. Several CIOs were key stakeholders and enthusiastic supporters of the program I was managing. Our program leadership, myself included, had to navigate the new landscape of "executive stakeholders" to build support for our efforts. We had to take additional steps to communicate the benefits of the program and to gain trust of the new CIOs. In the end, the impact on the project team was minimal.
Great Example Bruce - I assume there was no delay or additional cost incurred to the project. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 03, 2016 2:59 AM
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I faced a U-U Risk when new tool was introduced (which was not in the plan earlier). This impacted the plan itself. In such situation you have re-design the plan and it might impact (+/-ve) you deliverables.
Can you please be more specific with the example in terms of what was the exact risk, what action did you take, and how did it impact the project specifically. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 03, 2016 3:13 AM
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There were payment delays from a new customer in our last project. Our planned cash flow was not working and we were required more finance to run the project. It required a lot of effort to use the management reserves, also finance was not available all the time. It increased our financing cost and delay in our schedule due to lot of internal approvals.
Another good example Pankaj, thanks. You could not avoid the delay in schedule at all ?
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1 reply by PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHI
Feb 03, 2016 2:27 PM
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Yes the project survived with lack of budget and with delay in schedule.
I've encountered minor delays due to the impact of hurricanes, Mississippi valley flooding, and snowstorms. These were of the one week variety, and the projects were of relatively long duration (> 3 months), but depending on the timing, it could have had a bigger impact on the schedule than it did. And we did have a very short warning horizon of 1-2 days for each, which helped us with some pro-active planning rather than being 100% reactive.
Note that a one week delay due to such events could have a greater impact on short projects or sprints.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 03, 2016 10:44 AM
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John, Thanks for your input. I am not aware of the normal weather conditions in that area but is it normal to have hurricanes and flooding there ? Is yes, then this might be something that would have been taken into consideration in Contingency reserves. Can you shed more light on this please ?
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 03, 2016 9:50 AM
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I've encountered minor delays due to the impact of hurricanes, Mississippi valley flooding, and snowstorms. These were of the one week variety, and the projects were of relatively long duration (> 3 months), but depending on the timing, it could have had a bigger impact on the schedule than it did. And we did have a very short warning horizon of 1-2 days for each, which helped us with some pro-active planning rather than being 100% reactive.
Note that a one week delay due to such events could have a greater impact on short projects or sprints.
John, Thanks for your input. I am not aware of the normal weather conditions in that area but is it normal to have hurricanes and flooding there ? Is yes, then this might be something that would have been taken into consideration in Contingency reserves. Can you shed more light on this please ?
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1 reply by John Herman
Feb 03, 2016 1:14 PM
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In the US, areas in flood plains should expect be flooded about every 10 years, flood hazard areas about every 100 yrs. In the case of flooding, the area was in a flood hazard area so we had a one in 200 chance of flooding on a half year project. That's about 2.5 standard deviations on a normal curve, so perhaps we should have considered it. Snowstorms and hurricanes are also somewhat statistically probable, and certainly seasonal, so we can perhaps lump them and consider them "storms" and assign a storm reserve based on some formula.
Unknown unknown risks arise when the subject is not known, for example little experience in a particular topic, and research and innovation projects where new roads will travel to other things and achieve results.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 03, 2016 11:01 AM
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This is understood Juan but this was not the question. I am mainly concerned of getting some example of unknown-unknown risks you encountered at your job and what was their impact on your project. Can you give a detailed example please.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 03, 2016 10:58 AM
Replying to Juan Gabriel Gantiva Vergara
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Unknown unknown risks arise when the subject is not known, for example little experience in a particular topic, and research and innovation projects where new roads will travel to other things and achieve results.
This is understood Juan but this was not the question. I am mainly concerned of getting some example of unknown-unknown risks you encountered at your job and what was their impact on your project. Can you give a detailed example please. Saving Changes...
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