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Marius Cloete CEO| ProjectManagement.co.za Cape Town, Western Provice, South Africa
Am I the only one starting to feel uneasy noticing the term 'methodology' in so many postings?

Since the PMBOK's foundation is the building of common project management language through the careful crafting of definitions, how about we decide as a community to agree on working definitions for
framework, model, method, methodology, standard, discipline, plan, process and a few other related terms?
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Anonymous
Interesting one

The first confusion is the use of the work methodology instead of method. Methodology (like all words ending with ology) is the "Study of"; Geology - biology etc.

So when people use the work methodology they might mean method. For example - PRINCE2 is a Method.

CAM2P, which is what we have in SUKAD is Customizable and Adaptable Methodology for Managing Projects - notice we use methodology not method because CAM2P is not a specific method - is a methodological approach that you have to tailor to your own needs - once tailored it produces a method. For example a method for managing small-simple project, a method for marketing projects, a method for professional development project.

Refer to this blog for further reading http://blog.sukad.com/20130114/differences...rk-methodology/
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1 reply by Tania Melnyczuk
Feb 19, 2016 2:52 AM
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I think that is only one of the definitions of "methodology", just as "philosophy" defines a field of study, whereas "a philosophy" is a (hopefully) coherent set of ideas about something.

Similarly, we can have "methodology" and "a methodology" meaning different things.

Merriam-Webster also makes this distinction:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/methodology

In your response to Marius' question, you said that you see PRINCE2 is a Method, whereas in the blog post, you describe PRINCE2 as a Standard Methodology. Could you clarify the anomaly?
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Anonymous
Since you are on terminology - do not use PMBOK --- always use PMBOK Guide.

If you use PMBOK = Project Management Body of Knowledge - indicating the full body of knowledge which cannot be in one book

But using PMBOK Guide - it is reflecting a guide to the body of knowledge, which mean it is related to it but NOT the full body of knowledge. Again, maybe semantics but perception is often reality.
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Marius Cloete CEO| ProjectManagement.co.za Cape Town, Western Provice, South Africa
Thanks, Mounir. 'Guide' has new significance now.

Let's revisit this blog for more clarity about PRINCE2 being a method or a methodology.

http://www.projectmanagement.com/articles/...h-Methodologies
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Anonymous
Feb 17, 2016 1:13 AM
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Thanks, Mounir. 'Guide' has new significance now.

Let's revisit this blog for more clarity about PRINCE2 being a method or a methodology.

http://www.projectmanagement.com/articles/...h-Methodologies
Interesting blog - and this person is trying to clear the confusion of terminology and he is making a mistake himself.

He is right in the definition of framework - it is basically a guide.

He is also write in the other definition but he is defining a method not a methodology.

Regards
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Anonymous
By the way - I am writing an article on my blog site on method and methodologies - you would like it. Not sure if I can finish tonight - subscribe to http://blog.sukad.com if you are not
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
The answer is inside the PMBOK itself.
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Tania Melnyczuk Director: Programme Design| ProjectManagement.co.za Cape Town, South Africa
Which answer?
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Tania Melnyczuk Director: Programme Design| ProjectManagement.co.za Cape Town, South Africa
I think that is only one of the definitions of "methodology", just as "philosophy" defines a field of study, whereas "a philosophy" is a (hopefully) coherent set of ideas about something.

Similarly, we can have "methodology" and "a methodology" meaning different things.

Merriam-Webster also makes this distinction:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/methodology

In your response to Marius' question, you said that you see PRINCE2 is a Method, whereas in the blog post, you describe PRINCE2 as a Standard Methodology. Could you clarify the anomaly?
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Anonymous
Hi Tania

When I used the term PRINCE2 Methodology i think it was either a mistake or it was when i was confused on the difference between method and methodology. I used to mix them until a couple of people were correcting me. So I researched the topic and found out that there is a difference.

If you notice from the link you shared - they talked about methodology being set of methods (in the plural). Therefore, what I understand, is that when you use a term like "a methodology" this would be incorrect and it should be "a method".

Now PRINCE2 is it a method or methodology - most online references use the term methodology but if you refer to OGC website (the originator of PRINCE2 in UK Gov) they use the term method.

At the end - I am not one of those who is stuck on terminologies - to me what is important is to understand then use what you prefer. In general:

A method - is a specific way of doing something - following certain steps
Methodology - is more of an approach - a set (group) of methods.

Regards
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1 reply by Tania Melnyczuk
Feb 19, 2016 9:19 AM
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"At the end - I am not one of those who is stuck on terminologies - to me what is important is to understand then use what you prefer."

OK, so whether one says PMBOK or PMBOK Guide, Project Manager or Project Leader, Sponsor or Champion, it doesn't really matter what other people think you mean, as long as you know what you actually mean? ;-)

To be clear, though: I don't 'mind' either, as long as there is consistency and agreement to agree amongst the stakeholders, and at least sommmmmme alignment to something which is generally accepted too.

Here's why:

We worked with one organisation which used the term 'Project Manager' to denote what in regular Project Management would probably call a 'Regional Manager' in the organisation.

There was also another organisation which similarly would call a location where they did business a 'project'. So their head office, as well as their Kinshasa office, were 'projects'. However, in their case, a 'Project Manager' was not a Regional Manager; it had a different meaning.

The problem was, although they used this terminology consistently amongst themselves, it was impossible to proceed with any kind of training even vaguely aligned to international standards, because you'd have to have a glossary to translate their internal jargon. ("Remember, guys, operations means projects, projects means offices, project managers means... etc. Now, in reverse, if you read the texbooks,translate project manager to what we call a contract lead, and translate project to assignment," etc., etc. ad confuseam.)

The first organisation agreed to change their terminology. That meant their employees could then read books on Project Management, and it would be applicable to their (new) understanding of 'project', 'project manager', 'project management', and so on.

The second organisation insisted on continuing with the confusing internal standard which they were using internationally across all continents in their home-built 'Project Portal'. We walked away.
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Tania Melnyczuk Director: Programme Design| ProjectManagement.co.za Cape Town, South Africa
"At the end - I am not one of those who is stuck on terminologies - to me what is important is to understand then use what you prefer."

OK, so whether one says PMBOK or PMBOK Guide, Project Manager or Project Leader, Sponsor or Champion, it doesn't really matter what other people think you mean, as long as you know what you actually mean? ;-)

To be clear, though: I don't 'mind' either, as long as there is consistency and agreement to agree amongst the stakeholders, and at least sommmmmme alignment to something which is generally accepted too.

Here's why:

We worked with one organisation which used the term 'Project Manager' to denote what in regular Project Management would probably call a 'Regional Manager' in the organisation.

There was also another organisation which similarly would call a location where they did business a 'project'. So their head office, as well as their Kinshasa office, were 'projects'. However, in their case, a 'Project Manager' was not a Regional Manager; it had a different meaning.

The problem was, although they used this terminology consistently amongst themselves, it was impossible to proceed with any kind of training even vaguely aligned to international standards, because you'd have to have a glossary to translate their internal jargon. ("Remember, guys, operations means projects, projects means offices, project managers means... etc. Now, in reverse, if you read the texbooks,translate project manager to what we call a contract lead, and translate project to assignment," etc., etc. ad confuseam.)

The first organisation agreed to change their terminology. That meant their employees could then read books on Project Management, and it would be applicable to their (new) understanding of 'project', 'project manager', 'project management', and so on.

The second organisation insisted on continuing with the confusing internal standard which they were using internationally across all continents in their home-built 'Project Portal'. We walked away.
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Feb 23, 2016 7:45 PM
Stéphane Parent
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I find it particularly disappointing when I see software packages like enterprise resources planning (ERP) and integrated development environment (IDE) solutions use the word "project" to simply designate a container, a group of elements.
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