George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Each PMI release should be accompanied with a Sample Story of a Project definition with corresponding templates
Everyone have had the feeling of NOT knowing how to do something that's defined withing the PMI PMBOK or other book of knowledge.
The standards are great, I follow them very carefully, yet, somethings I feel the need for an integral explanation with a sample situation when I can follow allong the theory. Also tools each Inputs/Outputs as well as the tool and techniques should have an example.
All these related to the same story from Initiation to Closing...
What do you think? Is there anything like this around? Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Hi Mounir - Can you send the information that you have published regarding this? Your statement caught my attention, I'm just not good at wording, BUT you did almost all that I was trying to say...
Thanks, It's good to interact and to know that we are not silo on thoughts. Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Hi Markus
Suggestion: Why not trying to build such a sample story by your own? Or just try to initiate it as a "project" here on pm.com ...?
I'm trying to see if there is anything out there, so I won't have to duplicate the work, but I've I already started to link all activities per KA, it's just a huge task, some help or a team effort would be better.
Regarding templates, for the last two versions of the PMBOK Guide (and I imagine they'll do it again for the Sixth Edition) there is a book called A Project Manager's Book of Forms to the PMBOK Guide ? Edition that is published by PMI and Whiley with Cynthia Stackpole Snyder being the author. PMI members can find the forms somewhere at PMI.org, but without the definitions on what goes in the sections, just the blank forms. It is not 100% aligned with the PMBOK, mostly because it is missing things, i.e. not all the bullet points in the PMBOK are included in the forms.
The other note is that when I contributed to the last two versions of the PMBOK Guide, any attempt I have made to have examples included for clarification have been rejected. PMI would state, "Recommendation’s level of detail inappropriate for a standard."
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1 reply by George Lewis
Mar 23, 2016 12:41 PM
George Lewis
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Michele, are you contributing to the new version to be released?
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Hi Michele - Good comments, nevertheless we are not trying to modify the PMBok itself, but there should be separate text with what Mounir indicated.
I'm going to have a look at the forms, but we are talking about a more integral set, one single big example with all that the theory explains. Just one, their could be several flavours of I/O and Tools and Techniques, but the integral set could be just referenced by one single Mock Project Sample, complete enough to cover everything in the standard.
Let me checkout those forms though. Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 23, 2016 9:03 AM
Replying to Michele Jones
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Regarding templates, for the last two versions of the PMBOK Guide (and I imagine they'll do it again for the Sixth Edition) there is a book called A Project Manager's Book of Forms to the PMBOK Guide ? Edition that is published by PMI and Whiley with Cynthia Stackpole Snyder being the author. PMI members can find the forms somewhere at PMI.org, but without the definitions on what goes in the sections, just the blank forms. It is not 100% aligned with the PMBOK, mostly because it is missing things, i.e. not all the bullet points in the PMBOK are included in the forms.
The other note is that when I contributed to the last two versions of the PMBOK Guide, any attempt I have made to have examples included for clarification have been rejected. PMI would state, "Recommendation’s level of detail inappropriate for a standard."
Michele, are you contributing to the new version to be released?
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1 reply by Michele Jones
Mar 23, 2016 5:20 PM
Michele Jones
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Absolutely, working on the mini 6th exposure draft right now. I contributed to the 4th and 5th as well.
Note that it is only a 51 page exposure draft until the full one comes out later. I'm glad they did this because when in your life have you seen a document the size of the PMBOK with one draft. I'm trying my best to help make it a better document, but it is inevitable that they will fix things, but mess up more than they fix.
got them in my inbox, I'm about to check! I'll give you feedback!
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Anonymous
Mar 23, 2016 8:20 AM
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Hi Mounir - Can you send the information that you have published regarding this? Your statement caught my attention, I'm just not good at wording, BUT you did almost all that I was trying to say...
Thanks, It's good to interact and to know that we are not silo on thoughts.
George
The info is a book - 300+ page. I will email you a visio as a teaser :-)
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1 reply by George Lewis
Mar 23, 2016 1:01 PM
George Lewis
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Mounir thanks
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mounir thanks Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
got them in my inbox, I'm about to check! I'll give you feedback! Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I'm with Sergio and Mounir: standards offers guidelines and techniques, not tools. For example, if you look at ISO or BASE standards, they leave it to the implementer to choose, customize and carry tools. Saving Changes...
