Denise CantyAgile Coach, Life Coach, Author, Senior Project-Program Manager| Cenden CompanyWashington, Dc, United States
Certification because you have the knowledge to manage projects the "correct way". Saving Changes...
Haseeb AslamMarketing and Partner Relations Team Lead| Ovex Technologies - dinCloudIslamabad, Pakistan
In order to be a true professional and understand each and every aspect of project at hand , experience matters alot. Having a good amount of experience and being exposed to variations on the field , people get to understand various factors not easily understandable by only going through reading materials . Obtain experience, then go for certification to make your experience count and then become a certified professional. Saving Changes...
Stephen StewartCIO Candidate / Director of Operations / MIS / Program / Project Management| Sona NetworksSeverna Park, Md, United States
Experience first. Would you put an inexperienced engineer with a Microsoft certification running your network. Not even sure you could pass the current PMI-PMP test with out experience nor honestly even take it as there is an experience requirement. . Saving Changes...
Nadeem GhafoorBusiness Owner| Armour Services and Projects LLCMuscat, Muscat, Oman
Mar 29, 2016 9:33 PM
Replying to Bala S Duvvuri
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IMO second one is the best and i think it depends on certification to certification for example for Certified Scrum Master(CSM) you don't need any experience,just attend 2 days training and then get certified but in case of PMP you need to have experience and solid understanding of the concepts then only you can go and attain the certification.
I believe, we should get experience first to get certification because if a person do the certification first and later on, urge to get experience will get less chances to earn management experience or even he might not as succeed as he can be.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Jun 28, 2016 2:38 PM
George Lewis
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Nadeem - thanks for your input...
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Jun 28, 2016 2:12 PM
Replying to Nadeem Ghafoor
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I believe, we should get experience first to get certification because if a person do the certification first and later on, urge to get experience will get less chances to earn management experience or even he might not as succeed as he can be.
Nadeem - thanks for your input... Saving Changes...
AKHIL UNNI RAJProject Engineer| Interface Technical InspectionDubai, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
I am seeing so many comments preferring experience over certification..but in todays market how hard it is to get the experience we require, so in that case how do we get the experience before certification and shouldn't certification be considered as an entry pass atleast for the entry level pm.
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3 replies by George Lewis and Rolf Dieter Zschau
Jun 29, 2016 4:24 AM
Rolf Dieter Zschau
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Hi Akhil.
In our company, we use the approach to educate first (internal trainings plus on-the-Job, maybe as support for an experienced PM), then manage a small project or subproject. So you get experience, coaching and mentoring - and the necessary insights that are useful for PMP certification. This is similar like I experienced in the past. Of course it takes some time - but to collect only certifications without experience will get you nowhere soon either. As I stated earlier, I would exclude an applicant that has certifications without experience - at least for the better positions. And I think, a training is more successful (higher intake), if you have at least some exposure to the training topic before. So I would not send someone to a training, if he didn't get exposed to the topic earlier - the only exception being an introductory course for a completely new topic for the company. But to such a course I would send an experienced employee, not a newbie.
p.s.: our internal trainings are based upon PMBOK and given mostly by PMP certified PMs and some experienced educators. We also require Senior Consultants to get PMP or GPM level C or B certified if they work in project management.
Jun 29, 2016 8:22 AM
George Lewis
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Hi Akhil - That's exactly why I posted this question, the answer is not straight forward as some may think. It does put you to wonder; and even though it depends on each one current status in life. I go for getting valid/basics certifications (not saying wichones) and then move on to generate experience and while doing so, go for getting valid/more complex certifications and finally and at the end for those Gurus/Masters going for those unique certifications.
Jun 29, 2016 8:26 AM
George Lewis
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Akhil - I hope you have casted your vote here in the Poll, have you?
I am seeing so many comments preferring experience over certification..but in todays market how hard it is to get the experience we require, so in that case how do we get the experience before certification and shouldn't certification be considered as an entry pass atleast for the entry level pm.
Hi Akhil.
In our company, we use the approach to educate first (internal trainings plus on-the-Job, maybe as support for an experienced PM), then manage a small project or subproject. So you get experience, coaching and mentoring - and the necessary insights that are useful for PMP certification. This is similar like I experienced in the past. Of course it takes some time - but to collect only certifications without experience will get you nowhere soon either. As I stated earlier, I would exclude an applicant that has certifications without experience - at least for the better positions. And I think, a training is more successful (higher intake), if you have at least some exposure to the training topic before. So I would not send someone to a training, if he didn't get exposed to the topic earlier - the only exception being an introductory course for a completely new topic for the company. But to such a course I would send an experienced employee, not a newbie.
p.s.: our internal trainings are based upon PMBOK and given mostly by PMP certified PMs and some experienced educators. We also require Senior Consultants to get PMP or GPM level C or B certified if they work in project management.
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Jun 29, 2016 4:11 AM
Replying to AKHIL UNNI RAJ
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I am seeing so many comments preferring experience over certification..but in todays market how hard it is to get the experience we require, so in that case how do we get the experience before certification and shouldn't certification be considered as an entry pass atleast for the entry level pm.
Hi Akhil - That's exactly why I posted this question, the answer is not straight forward as some may think. It does put you to wonder; and even though it depends on each one current status in life. I go for getting valid/basics certifications (not saying wichones) and then move on to generate experience and while doing so, go for getting valid/more complex certifications and finally and at the end for those Gurus/Masters going for those unique certifications. Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Jun 29, 2016 4:11 AM
Replying to AKHIL UNNI RAJ
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I am seeing so many comments preferring experience over certification..but in todays market how hard it is to get the experience we require, so in that case how do we get the experience before certification and shouldn't certification be considered as an entry pass atleast for the entry level pm.
Akhil - I hope you have casted your vote here in the Poll, have you?
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Jun 29, 2016 4:24 AM
Replying to Rolf Dieter Zschau
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Hi Akhil.
In our company, we use the approach to educate first (internal trainings plus on-the-Job, maybe as support for an experienced PM), then manage a small project or subproject. So you get experience, coaching and mentoring - and the necessary insights that are useful for PMP certification. This is similar like I experienced in the past. Of course it takes some time - but to collect only certifications without experience will get you nowhere soon either. As I stated earlier, I would exclude an applicant that has certifications without experience - at least for the better positions. And I think, a training is more successful (higher intake), if you have at least some exposure to the training topic before. So I would not send someone to a training, if he didn't get exposed to the topic earlier - the only exception being an introductory course for a completely new topic for the company. But to such a course I would send an experienced employee, not a newbie.
p.s.: our internal trainings are based upon PMBOK and given mostly by PMP certified PMs and some experienced educators. We also require Senior Consultants to get PMP or GPM level C or B certified if they work in project management.
