John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
Remember for PMP, you have to experience just to meet the prerequisites. I problem I am having is The Fresh Out of College syndrome. Even though you have a degree, you need experience before you are hired. How do you get experience if you are not hired?
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1 reply by George Lewis
Dec 05, 2016 9:33 AM
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Exacly! That's the issue most people face!!!
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Dec 04, 2016 11:48 PM
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Remember for PMP, you have to experience just to meet the prerequisites. I problem I am having is The Fresh Out of College syndrome. Even though you have a degree, you need experience before you are hired. How do you get experience if you are not hired?
Exacly! That's the issue most people face!!! Saving Changes...
Nandakumar ChoodamaniPMP, Project management, 11 years, Networking protocol testing projects.| NOKIA corp - former Alcatel-LucentPalakkad, Kerala, India
Exactly same what i am going through. I am certified but i am a beginner in project management. But without any one giving opportunity to even try, having PMP is useless. Saving Changes...
John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
What I am seeing as a trend in project management that there are two big industries; IT and Construction. One of the reasons I see is organizations are not educated on how PMBoK can save them time and effort if implemented correctly. The other reason could be management does not know or have not applied the very essence of the definition for projects. For my background in curriculum design and training development I could blend the ADDIE model with PMI processes. Of course it takes someone willing to invest into new talent. Companies post 10-15 years experiences so they do not pay for the inexperience learning curve. I see a different values where they are not tangible like; loyalty, commitment, and innovation. I am encouraging the employee seekers to rethink their requirements. Someone who is less experience just have answer to the hard question your are facing. Insight, foresight, and revelation are abilities to see solutions when no one else can, but if not giving chance to express them a lot of time and effort are wasted. One employee for a corporation made a mistake which cost the organization millions to recover the damage. When the CEO was asked if he was going fire the individual, he said no. Can you imagine? His reasoning was three fold 1) chances are the individual will not make the same mistake again, 2) their replacement may make the same mistake, now the corporation would pay twice for the same mistake, and 3) if fired, the individual will not make the mistake and could prevent the mistake from happenjng in their new company or position. Mistakes will happen even with decades of experience, but the idea is the learning process that goes with it. How many how many times did Thomas Edison fail? At least he learned what did not work to solve the his problem. Food for thought. Saving Changes...
Brenden MurphyMarketing Intern| New Jersey Tech CouncilFranklin Park, Nj, United States
Great Thread! Saving Changes...
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according to me all we need Experience. Certification is secondary thing if you have real time experience on project you can survive any where. To get hand Experience on Project Management Course Check out this best project management institute in Hyderabad Saving Changes...
mide sowunmiWeb Developer| General MotorsAtlanta, Ga, United States
Apr 05, 2016 12:58 PM
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It is the age old question, how to get a job without experience, how to get experience without a job. It is difficult. The best way is to some how get involved in whatever it is you are interested in. Take on related projects, join applicable groups, meet representative colleagues, etc. I wish there was a great answer to this question, but I bet if you asked 100 people how they achieved this, you will likely get 100 different answers.
perhaps you can get experience by volunteering.. when you do quality work for free you gain experience and make contacts. from personal experience in the software development field that's what worked for me Saving Changes...
mide sowunmiWeb Developer| General MotorsAtlanta, Ga, United States
May 24, 2016 3:41 PM
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Both are important
some time we get chance to work more and gain experience with no time to certify our knowledge, that's fine
If we can get certificate, there are 2 types, if it is knowledge certificate, then no experience is required, just add knowledge, but if it is professional certificate (the experience here is needed to know what is it all about, not to be imaginations)
For some certificates it is a prerequisite to have and demonstrate experience, then cannot be avoided !
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Nestor BayonaPMP, PRINCE2, ITIL Certified| ATDISavigny-Sur-Orge, Essonnes, France
Experience, more than knowledge and certifications. Saving Changes...
Chanukya RajagopalaDirector - IT Strategy - R & D| iPOCA Private LtdUnited Kingdom
Chicken or Egg?
Both roadmaps have pros and cons
My own -
Accounting professional by education.
Management Professional by profession
Project Management core specalisation of my Management profession.
Progression by experience........
Certification as a backfill to ensure relevance in the industry and knowledge build.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Dec 31, 2016 6:52 PM
George Lewis
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Chanu - I like your approach, thanks for sharing...
