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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
I have seen lots of comments indicating the challenges Brazil have facing hosting the Olympics. Please comment on this if you wish. But....

I have not seen many comments on the POSITIVE aspects of hosting such a great event. In terms of project opportunities and the expectation that it will contribute to the country growth as financial investments will benefit the country once Olympics is over.

Great opportunity for Projects, Project Managers and the country Project Management itself.
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Adalberto Silva Functional Manager| Neoenergia Jaboatão Dos Guararapes, Bahia, Brazil
Well, I´m living now in Salvador, Bahia, it is a State that stay about 1.450 Km far from Rio de Janeiro, where is the center of Olimpics Games. In Salvador, we had only 10 soccer games. Because of this, we don´t had oportunities to the project managers.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Is it a project or a program?
Or both, depending on who looks at it?
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1 reply by Farhad Abdollahyan
Aug 21, 2016 7:13 PM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Thmas Walenta,

From the stand point of the hosting country there are four distinct but interrelated programmes:
(1) Games infrastructure - the stadia, the urban mobility and airport reforms, security etc.
(2) Games delivery - including starting and closing cerimonies.
(3) National competing athletes preparation and competition.
(4) Legacy organization and transition.

Other stakeholders also have their own programmes, for example those in charge of the games transmission, promotion and merchandising. And each participating countries manage their participation as a project or programme depending on the scale and complexity of each case.
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Farhad Abdollahyan Managing Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em Projetos Sao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Aug 21, 2016 5:26 PM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Is it a project or a program?
Or both, depending on who looks at it?
Dear Thmas Walenta,

From the stand point of the hosting country there are four distinct but interrelated programmes:
(1) Games infrastructure - the stadia, the urban mobility and airport reforms, security etc.
(2) Games delivery - including starting and closing cerimonies.
(3) National competing athletes preparation and competition.
(4) Legacy organization and transition.

Other stakeholders also have their own programmes, for example those in charge of the games transmission, promotion and merchandising. And each participating countries manage their participation as a project or programme depending on the scale and complexity of each case.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Thanks, Farhad.

As Olympic Games are a portfollio of programs as you say, why do some call them a project?
And, is the mere size a sufficient criterium for calling it a program, or is the defining factor rather the benefits thst can only be schieved if the programs are managed as a unit?
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2 replies by Farhad Abdollahyan and George Lewis
Aug 26, 2016 8:28 AM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Thomas,

Semantics referring to temporary endeavors is a scholar discussion. People not used to the terminology applied by practitioners and scholars tend to call all of them as projects.
I called them "programmes" because each of the 4 mentioned initiatives had (and still has, since the Paraolimpics will happen in the next two weeks) a different set of outcomes (measured in benefits).

(1) Games infrastructure - the stadia, the urban mobility and airport reforms, security etc.

The project outputs related to this programme realized a part of the benefits, that is increasing capacity to realize the games, but their remaining benefits will be realized in decades to come.

(2) Games delivery - including starting and closing cerimonies.

The project outputs related to Olympics were all successfully delivered and the outcome was a success. The benefits are Brazil's reputation in delivering such a games and return to COI/COB in monetary terms. Other stakeholders (hotels, restaurants, taxis, etc) benefited from higher demands for their goods and services.

Paralympic games are yet to be delivered and evaluated. Apparently not all the expected tickets were sold.

(3) National competing athletes preparation and competition.

Brazil broke records for medals, though did not achieve the goal to end up among the top ten.
Paralympic games are yet to be delivered and evaluated.


(4) Legacy organization and transition.

This programme has started and it is too early to evaluate its returns in terms of value-for-money.
Aug 28, 2016 8:20 PM
George Lewis
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Thomas - thanks for your input, but this not not at all the intention of the discussion. Even so, I hope the response has been clear you...
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Rogerio Santos Director| .: RIZ | iko Software :. Rio De Janeiro, Rj, Brazil
In my opinion, it is a huge Project with a hundred of deliverables.
Program definition stays more than one Project nature joined for the same propose. Here, we have the same projects' nature.
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Sergio Luiz Pires de Barros IT/Digital Transformation| Alvarez & Marsal São Paulo, São Paulo, Brazil
Yes, the Olympics were a great opportunity for Brazil and I have no doubt that we will have good new opportunities in the future.
Not only from economic side, but quite the feeling that we can accomplish projects of such magnitude (especially after the negativism quoted by you).
The politic situation in Brazil is complicated and this can explain the things that you heard.
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Otamilo Araujo Project Manager| In transition phase Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, Brazil
I can not believe. They are discussing whether the project was good for Brazil and what are the major projects in progress or in the future in our country.

The issue here is that the design of the Olympics in 2016 sold to Brazilian society has not yet been delivered. The games ended, but today, August 24, 2016, the Rio de Janeiro officials are being charged for the delivery of the project that was released population.

What is missing finish estatudal and municipal government report that will end in 2020. That's a big joke or prank. Some works are promised for 2018 and others will by 2020.

The Project Management theory it is only finished when delivering all that was promised and all that was negotiated with the users, in this case we still have 4 more years.

Knowing Brazilian politicians this project (or this portfolio of projects) will not end anytime soon.

This is a classic case of gray cloud. The project "ended the period / time", the control points 99% done and the project continues indefinitely.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Aug 28, 2016 8:51 PM
George Lewis
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Otamilo - The actual Olympic games Project has already completed, and as far as I see it, we can comment on this result.

The discussion was not intended to be political but, to talk about the possibilities Project Managers had in Brazil as a result of this Project.

I'm sure they are lots of projects related, and other City issues that we are totally not aware of, but that's another story.

So maybe you can re-enter your comments focusing on the Start and Finish of this mass event, which by itself was surely challenging.
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Farhad Abdollahyan Managing Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em Projetos Sao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Aug 22, 2016 2:17 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Thanks, Farhad.

As Olympic Games are a portfollio of programs as you say, why do some call them a project?
And, is the mere size a sufficient criterium for calling it a program, or is the defining factor rather the benefits thst can only be schieved if the programs are managed as a unit?
Dear Thomas,

Semantics referring to temporary endeavors is a scholar discussion. People not used to the terminology applied by practitioners and scholars tend to call all of them as projects.
I called them "programmes" because each of the 4 mentioned initiatives had (and still has, since the Paraolimpics will happen in the next two weeks) a different set of outcomes (measured in benefits).

(1) Games infrastructure - the stadia, the urban mobility and airport reforms, security etc.

The project outputs related to this programme realized a part of the benefits, that is increasing capacity to realize the games, but their remaining benefits will be realized in decades to come.

(2) Games delivery - including starting and closing cerimonies.

The project outputs related to Olympics were all successfully delivered and the outcome was a success. The benefits are Brazil's reputation in delivering such a games and return to COI/COB in monetary terms. Other stakeholders (hotels, restaurants, taxis, etc) benefited from higher demands for their goods and services.

Paralympic games are yet to be delivered and evaluated. Apparently not all the expected tickets were sold.

(3) National competing athletes preparation and competition.

Brazil broke records for medals, though did not achieve the goal to end up among the top ten.
Paralympic games are yet to be delivered and evaluated.


(4) Legacy organization and transition.

This programme has started and it is too early to evaluate its returns in terms of value-for-money.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Aug 28, 2016 8:21 PM
George Lewis
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Farhad - thanks for your comments...
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Mario Trentim CEO| PMO Global Alliance Sao Jose Dos Campos, Sao Paulo, Brazil
Now that the Olympic Games in Rio are over, what would be the long-term effects? In my opinion, both the Olympic Games 2016 and the Soccer World Cup 2014 were important events with positive results to Brazil.
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2 replies by Farhad Abdollahyan and George Lewis
Aug 28, 2016 8:23 PM
George Lewis
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Mario - Thanks for the input, I also agree that after these two major events something good needs to happen for us project managers community in Rio and Brazil.
Aug 28, 2016 8:33 PM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Mario,

The Games are technically not over yet. We will have the Paralympics in a few days.

Yes, I agree with you that both World Cup as well as RIO 2016 had positive effects in the Brazilian economy and society, however, both could have been much more effective.
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Aug 22, 2016 2:17 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Thanks, Farhad.

As Olympic Games are a portfollio of programs as you say, why do some call them a project?
And, is the mere size a sufficient criterium for calling it a program, or is the defining factor rather the benefits thst can only be schieved if the programs are managed as a unit?
Thomas - thanks for your input, but this not not at all the intention of the discussion. Even so, I hope the response has been clear you...
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