George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
I have seen lots of comments indicating the challenges Brazil have facing hosting the Olympics. Please comment on this if you wish. But....
I have not seen many comments on the POSITIVE aspects of hosting such a great event. In terms of project opportunities and the expectation that it will contribute to the country growth as financial investments will benefit the country once Olympics is over.
Great opportunity for Projects, Project Managers and the country Project Management itself. Saving Changes...
Walter NalimWalter Nalim PMP - PRINCE2 PRACTITIONER - ITIL - MCITP| EQUINIX BRASILSão Gonçalo, Rj, Brazil
Just my opinion! Saving Changes...
Christian VelazquezBARA Process Lead| Cadena de Descuento BARAMonterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
There are currently a lot of external treats that can affect the Project, the PMs assigned have their hands full. However they should have appointed this after what happen at the World Cup.
...
1 reply by Farhad Abdollahyan
Jul 15, 2016 9:28 PM
Farhad Abdollahyan
...
Christian,
There are no way you can do a BREXIT when a country commits to host a World Cup or Olympics, unless there is a Force Majeur (Colombia stepped down in 1986 because of Earth Quake and Mexico hosted for the second time). No Olympic Games were transferred, though!
There is no reason to scrap US$ 10 billion dollars investment now!
We are facing a SUNK COST case, where aborting the project is not an option!
Saving Changes...
Josemar VianaGerente de projetos| BB Tecnologia e ServiçosRio De Janeiro, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil
Currently, Brazil is experiencing a major economic and political crisis, so there's a part of the population does not agree with the Olympic Games, understanding that there are other serious problems to be dealt with by the Brazilian Government.
...
1 reply by Farhad Abdollahyan
Jul 15, 2016 9:23 PM
Farhad Abdollahyan
...
Josemar,
By definition, Olympic Games is a long term commitment, made 8 years ago.
At that time nobody demonstrated discontent.
It is also true that the population was not consulted through a referendum, as done in Germany.
It is late to reject it now!
We, Brazilians, have now the obligation to make the most of it and realize all the benefits which were in the business case.
Sorry it is late to say we don't agree...
Saving Changes...
Farhad AbdollahyanManaging Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em ProjetosSao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Jul 15, 2016 6:05 PM
Replying to Josemar Viana
...
Currently, Brazil is experiencing a major economic and political crisis, so there's a part of the population does not agree with the Olympic Games, understanding that there are other serious problems to be dealt with by the Brazilian Government.
Josemar,
By definition, Olympic Games is a long term commitment, made 8 years ago.
At that time nobody demonstrated discontent.
It is also true that the population was not consulted through a referendum, as done in Germany.
It is late to reject it now!
We, Brazilians, have now the obligation to make the most of it and realize all the benefits which were in the business case.
Sorry it is late to say we don't agree... Saving Changes...
Farhad AbdollahyanManaging Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em ProjetosSao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Jul 15, 2016 4:10 PM
Replying to Christian Velazquez
...
There are currently a lot of external treats that can affect the Project, the PMs assigned have their hands full. However they should have appointed this after what happen at the World Cup.
Christian,
There are no way you can do a BREXIT when a country commits to host a World Cup or Olympics, unless there is a Force Majeur (Colombia stepped down in 1986 because of Earth Quake and Mexico hosted for the second time). No Olympic Games were transferred, though!
There is no reason to scrap US$ 10 billion dollars investment now!
We are facing a SUNK COST case, where aborting the project is not an option! Saving Changes...
Although its a great project and opportunity to Brazil I think that once again, we cannot use the lessons learned got in World Cup, for example, where we did a good event, but the legacy for the cities was nothing. Once again, I think that it will be a "successful" project, because the event will happen, but without benefits for the future. Note: Successful project just considering the completed event, but without considering a good management of budget and other knowledge areas.
...
2 replies by Farhad Abdollahyan and Leonardo de Souza Pandolfini
Jul 16, 2016 6:08 PM
Farhad Abdollahyan
...
Dear Leonardo,
I may agree partially with you regarding the World Cup. Most of the legacy related projects (airport retrofits, urban mobility and transport projects) where not delivered in time.
However, Olympic Games is another ball game totally different, since it is (1) concentrated in one city, (2) the monitoring of COI was much more effective, and (3) The Mayor of Rio was much more committed to the infrastructure projects that he himself oversaw.
The legacy is enormous, I think that you can see for yourself in this short video:
I think that this short video is even better to show you the transformation in the city where you live: https://youtu.be/1S82z3PlDv8
Jul 17, 2016 2:32 PM
Leonardo de Souza Pandolfini
...
Dear Farhad,
In that point of view I totally agree with you. The Olimpic games will provide a good legacy for Rio de Janeiro, in specific to the fact of concentraded projects in this city. Anyway I think that here in Brazil we need to use more the lessons learned to do better projects in the future and this community has a lot of contribution to do it! Nice discussion here...all of us gain with.
I believe the Olympic Games was an amazing opportunity for Brazil and our area of Project Management. Particularly I'm an enthusiastic of this kind of Event, I believe it's necessarily to pass this projects to improve the country's maturity.
But unfortunately we're passing through a huge crisis, economical and political, and this kind of situation it's bad for the Brazilian's image. In special Rio has a several problem with public security and all Brazilians have concerns about this aspect.
Let's hope everything goes well and we have excellent Olympic Games.
Best regards,
Wilian Fabricio Pereira Saving Changes...
Rogerio SantosDirector| .: RIZ | iko Software :.Rio De Janeiro, Rj, Brazil
I fully agree with Mr. Pize.
I'm living in Rio nowadays and I can see Project Management and Risk Management everywhere. It isn't an easy challenger and economic situation doesn't help, but I believe in success at the end due to PM techniques applied. Saving Changes...
Rogerio SantosDirector| .: RIZ | iko Software :.Rio De Janeiro, Rj, Brazil
I fully agree with Mr. Pize.
I'm living in Rio nowadays and I can see Project Management and Risk Management everywhere. It isn't an easy challenger and economic situation doesn't help, but I believe in success at the end due to PM techniques applied. Saving Changes...
Josemar VianaGerente de projetos| BB Tecnologia e ServiçosRio De Janeiro, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil
I'm living in Rio nowadays and I can't see the Olympic legacy!
...
1 reply by Farhad Abdollahyan
Jul 16, 2016 5:43 PM
Farhad Abdollahyan
...
Josemar,
Maybe I can hep you see them, there are everywhere!
The construction of gyms, parks, athletes accommodation and an unprecedented urban legacy of public transport consumed R$ 37.6 billion of funds. Projects are divided into two categories: OLYMPIC PROJECTS MUNICIPAL and POLICY PLAN PUBLIC.
- OLYMPIC PROJECTS MUNICIPAL are the municipal projects linked exclusively to the organization and holding of the 2016 Games, which are listed in the Matrix of Responsibilities of the Olympic and Paralympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, the second update was released by the Olympic Public Authority (APO) in 28 January 2015. full Responsibility Matrix, version 1.28.2015, is in: http://www.apo.gov.br/index.php/matriz/atualizacao/
- PUBLIC POLICY PLAN are infrastructure works and municipal public policies that are not exclusively related to the organization and holding of the Olympic event, but are necessary for the population and are being implemented through the Games. The Plan for Public Policy - Full Legacy Budget, the first update was released in April 2015, also meets state and federal projects, and is in: http://www.apo.gov.br/index.php/plano-de-politicas-publicas/
