George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
I have seen lots of comments indicating the challenges Brazil have facing hosting the Olympics. Please comment on this if you wish. But....
I have not seen many comments on the POSITIVE aspects of hosting such a great event. In terms of project opportunities and the expectation that it will contribute to the country growth as financial investments will benefit the country once Olympics is over.
Great opportunity for Projects, Project Managers and the country Project Management itself. Saving Changes...
The construction of gyms, parks, athletes accommodation and an unprecedented urban legacy of public transport consumed R$ 37.6 billion of funds. Projects are divided into two categories: OLYMPIC PROJECTS MUNICIPAL and POLICY PLAN PUBLIC.
- OLYMPIC PROJECTS MUNICIPAL are the municipal projects linked exclusively to the organization and holding of the 2016 Games, which are listed in the Matrix of Responsibilities of the Olympic and Paralympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, the second update was released by the Olympic Public Authority (APO) in 28 January 2015. full Responsibility Matrix, version 1.28.2015, is in: http://www.apo.gov.br/index.php/matriz/atualizacao/
- PUBLIC POLICY PLAN are infrastructure works and municipal public policies that are not exclusively related to the organization and holding of the Olympic event, but are necessary for the population and are being implemented through the Games. The Plan for Public Policy - Full Legacy Budget, the first update was released in April 2015, also meets state and federal projects, and is in: http://www.apo.gov.br/index.php/plano-de-politicas-publicas/
Farhad AbdollahyanManaging Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em ProjetosSao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Josemar,
I think that this short video is even better to show you the transformation in the city where you live: https://youtu.be/1S82z3PlDv8
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1 reply by Josemar Viana
Jul 16, 2016 6:40 PM
Josemar Viana
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Sorry, but you don't live here!
But as the old saying goes, All that glitters is not gold.
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Farhad AbdollahyanManaging Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em ProjetosSao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Jul 16, 2016 3:37 PM
Replying to Leonardo de Souza Pandolfini
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Although its a great project and opportunity to Brazil I think that once again, we cannot use the lessons learned got in World Cup, for example, where we did a good event, but the legacy for the cities was nothing. Once again, I think that it will be a "successful" project, because the event will happen, but without benefits for the future. Note: Successful project just considering the completed event, but without considering a good management of budget and other knowledge areas.
Dear Leonardo,
I may agree partially with you regarding the World Cup. Most of the legacy related projects (airport retrofits, urban mobility and transport projects) where not delivered in time.
However, Olympic Games is another ball game totally different, since it is (1) concentrated in one city, (2) the monitoring of COI was much more effective, and (3) The Mayor of Rio was much more committed to the infrastructure projects that he himself oversaw.
The legacy is enormous, I think that you can see for yourself in this short video:
I think that this short video is even better to show you the transformation in the city where you live: https://youtu.be/1S82z3PlDv8 Saving Changes...
Josemar VianaGerente de projetos| BB Tecnologia e ServiçosRio De Janeiro, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil
Jul 16, 2016 5:55 PM
Replying to Farhad Abdollahyan
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Josemar,
I think that this short video is even better to show you the transformation in the city where you live: https://youtu.be/1S82z3PlDv8
Sorry, but you don't live here!
But as the old saying goes, All that glitters is not gold.
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1 reply by Farhad Abdollahyan
Jul 17, 2016 10:57 AM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Josemar,
Wrong again, i do live in Brazil.
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Walter NalimWalter Nalim PMP - PRINCE2 PRACTITIONER - ITIL - MCITP| EQUINIX BRASILSão Gonçalo, Rj, Brazil
I believe it is in times of crisis that most need to apply our expertise in project management to create quality products within tight deadlines and costs.
I also believe that if there was an adequate risk management in Brazil, we would not be going through this tough time today. Saving Changes...
Dani CastelucciProgram and Project Manager| Save the Children InternationalLondon, United Kingdom
Hello George,
I've read some of the answers on the topic and I believe they do cover most of the positive aspects of hosting the Olympics: More jobs in a time when the country faces a major crisis, more dollars coming from abroad etc. I do have though some specifics to ass that support my position against the olympics in Brazil:
- As a regular Brazilian practice, all projects that involve government money cost way more than they should due to bribes and other ilegal fees. Will the incomes compensate this extra cost?
- Rio has terrible health care system. Not all travelers are coming with a good health security. How will those be supported in case of a disease or accident?
- Crime is strong organized in Rio, and the 9k man police force will leave town once games are over. Criminals will know where the money is and will look for it
- English speakers are very rare, while traffic can lead foreigners to favelas - we know what it means - is there a risk of a major diplomatic crisis if foreigners are made hostages when try to transit?
So I do believe that Olympics can bring a lot of good things to several countries - but Brazil will accept high impact risks that I'm pretty confident can't be mitigated.
Regards!
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1 reply by Farhad Abdollahyan
Jul 17, 2016 11:18 AM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Daniela,
Very good questions, though I may not have adequate answers to all of them, here goes my 2 cents:
- As a regular Brazilian practice, all projects that involve government money cost way more than they should due to bribes and other ilegal fees. Will the incomes compensate this extra cost?
TCU (the independent audit authority) is vigilant and is auditing the contracts, procurement schemes and payments. So I believe that this risk is much mitigated.
- Rio has terrible health care system. Not all travelers are coming with a good health security. How will those be supported in case of a disease or accident?
Special attention has been put in place for health cases based on recent lessons learned from successful Federation Cup, the World Cup and London 2012 games.
To strengthen health care to the fans that will accompany the Olympic and Paralympic Games Rio 2016, the Ministry of Health will provide 146 ambulances during the competitions. The initiatives in health include the installation of an operations center to act in times of emergency and assist in organizing the support network. The CIOCS (Center for Integrated Health Joint Operations) will be launched from July 5 - a month before the Games begin - and will continue until October 5th. The Centre will monitor the risk situations, the demand for care, epidemiological and health surveillance, in addition to coordinating emergency responses before public health.
http://portalsaude.saude.gov.br/index.php/...jogos-olimpicos
- Crime is strong organized in Rio, and the 9k man police force will leave town once games are over. Criminals will know where the money is and will look for it.
Unfortunately, crime is endemic in Rio and the Games will not sole this issue, however during the games Rio's security will be commanded by the Army and National Security Forces will strengthen the existing military police of Rio.
- English speakers are very rare, while traffic can lead foreigners to favelas - we know what it means - is there a risk of a major diplomatic crisis if foreigners are made hostages when try to transit?
Going to favelas to visit is quite folkloric, however the tourists know the risk. No diplomatic problem arises unless a foreign dignitary or official staff is taken hostage, which as a member of OFA International Assistant I assure you that the chances are slim.
Enter your comments related to project management comments try to avoid politics issues.
I think this difficult time that Brazil is going through, does not inspire good fluids to a big event like the Olympics . However , we Brazilians , we must seize this moment to show the world that we can overcome the difficulties . This is my opinion !
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1 reply by George Lewis
Jul 17, 2016 12:33 PM
George Lewis
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Fernando - In spite of the difficulties, do you consider this a great opportuny for the Project Managment Community?
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Farhad AbdollahyanManaging Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em ProjetosSao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Jul 16, 2016 6:40 PM
Replying to Josemar Viana
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Sorry, but you don't live here!
But as the old saying goes, All that glitters is not gold.
Josemar,
Wrong again, i do live in Brazil. Saving Changes...
Farhad AbdollahyanManaging Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em ProjetosSao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Jul 17, 2016 8:23 AM
Replying to Dani Castelucci
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Hello George,
I've read some of the answers on the topic and I believe they do cover most of the positive aspects of hosting the Olympics: More jobs in a time when the country faces a major crisis, more dollars coming from abroad etc. I do have though some specifics to ass that support my position against the olympics in Brazil:
- As a regular Brazilian practice, all projects that involve government money cost way more than they should due to bribes and other ilegal fees. Will the incomes compensate this extra cost?
- Rio has terrible health care system. Not all travelers are coming with a good health security. How will those be supported in case of a disease or accident?
- Crime is strong organized in Rio, and the 9k man police force will leave town once games are over. Criminals will know where the money is and will look for it
- English speakers are very rare, while traffic can lead foreigners to favelas - we know what it means - is there a risk of a major diplomatic crisis if foreigners are made hostages when try to transit?
So I do believe that Olympics can bring a lot of good things to several countries - but Brazil will accept high impact risks that I'm pretty confident can't be mitigated.
Regards!
Dear Daniela,
Very good questions, though I may not have adequate answers to all of them, here goes my 2 cents:
- As a regular Brazilian practice, all projects that involve government money cost way more than they should due to bribes and other ilegal fees. Will the incomes compensate this extra cost?
TCU (the independent audit authority) is vigilant and is auditing the contracts, procurement schemes and payments. So I believe that this risk is much mitigated.
- Rio has terrible health care system. Not all travelers are coming with a good health security. How will those be supported in case of a disease or accident?
Special attention has been put in place for health cases based on recent lessons learned from successful Federation Cup, the World Cup and London 2012 games.
To strengthen health care to the fans that will accompany the Olympic and Paralympic Games Rio 2016, the Ministry of Health will provide 146 ambulances during the competitions. The initiatives in health include the installation of an operations center to act in times of emergency and assist in organizing the support network. The CIOCS (Center for Integrated Health Joint Operations) will be launched from July 5 - a month before the Games begin - and will continue until October 5th. The Centre will monitor the risk situations, the demand for care, epidemiological and health surveillance, in addition to coordinating emergency responses before public health.
http://portalsaude.saude.gov.br/index.php/...jogos-olimpicos
- Crime is strong organized in Rio, and the 9k man police force will leave town once games are over. Criminals will know where the money is and will look for it.
Unfortunately, crime is endemic in Rio and the Games will not sole this issue, however during the games Rio's security will be commanded by the Army and National Security Forces will strengthen the existing military police of Rio.
- English speakers are very rare, while traffic can lead foreigners to favelas - we know what it means - is there a risk of a major diplomatic crisis if foreigners are made hostages when try to transit?
Going to favelas to visit is quite folkloric, however the tourists know the risk. No diplomatic problem arises unless a foreign dignitary or official staff is taken hostage, which as a member of OFA International Assistant I assure you that the chances are slim.
I hope that I clarified your concerns.
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2 replies by Dani Castelucci and George Lewis
Jul 17, 2016 12:21 PM
George Lewis
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Farhad - there is so much good information here, let me read in detail and get back. Really interesting topic...
Jul 17, 2016 12:32 PM
Dani Castelucci
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Thank you very much for your educative and comprehensive answer, Farhad! I'll read more about health support during the Olympics and also other new comments to this topic.
Regarding the topic I mentioned - foreigners entering favelas - I did not refer to planned tours that are part of the local Highlights.instead, I'm referring to accidental, unplanned entrances that can result in bad experiences. Those are quite common.
Regards!
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Jul 17, 2016 11:18 AM
Replying to Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Daniela,
Very good questions, though I may not have adequate answers to all of them, here goes my 2 cents:
- As a regular Brazilian practice, all projects that involve government money cost way more than they should due to bribes and other ilegal fees. Will the incomes compensate this extra cost?
TCU (the independent audit authority) is vigilant and is auditing the contracts, procurement schemes and payments. So I believe that this risk is much mitigated.
- Rio has terrible health care system. Not all travelers are coming with a good health security. How will those be supported in case of a disease or accident?
Special attention has been put in place for health cases based on recent lessons learned from successful Federation Cup, the World Cup and London 2012 games.
To strengthen health care to the fans that will accompany the Olympic and Paralympic Games Rio 2016, the Ministry of Health will provide 146 ambulances during the competitions. The initiatives in health include the installation of an operations center to act in times of emergency and assist in organizing the support network. The CIOCS (Center for Integrated Health Joint Operations) will be launched from July 5 - a month before the Games begin - and will continue until October 5th. The Centre will monitor the risk situations, the demand for care, epidemiological and health surveillance, in addition to coordinating emergency responses before public health.
http://portalsaude.saude.gov.br/index.php/...jogos-olimpicos
- Crime is strong organized in Rio, and the 9k man police force will leave town once games are over. Criminals will know where the money is and will look for it.
Unfortunately, crime is endemic in Rio and the Games will not sole this issue, however during the games Rio's security will be commanded by the Army and National Security Forces will strengthen the existing military police of Rio.
- English speakers are very rare, while traffic can lead foreigners to favelas - we know what it means - is there a risk of a major diplomatic crisis if foreigners are made hostages when try to transit?
Going to favelas to visit is quite folkloric, however the tourists know the risk. No diplomatic problem arises unless a foreign dignitary or official staff is taken hostage, which as a member of OFA International Assistant I assure you that the chances are slim.
I hope that I clarified your concerns.
Farhad - there is so much good information here, let me read in detail and get back. Really interesting topic... Saving Changes...