Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
It depends on your experience and field. I can't really tell how many years but if you are workign within the same company, your progression should be related to your performance and experience. Ive seen some people join companies as PM and after they proved themselves, they were promoted to senior PMs in 6 months to one year. Saving Changes...
Jeremy LunsfordManager| ONEOK, Inc.Collinsville, Ok, United States
I agree with Rami. The types of projects that you work on will give you varied experience. Also your drive to continually learn and study the techniques of PM will affect your ability to be promoted. I teach my team that you must study your trade and stay in a continual state of learning. Saving Changes...
Robert DufferPMO Manager| Hawaii GasMililani, Hi, United States
I certainly feel it varies. Sometimes it is just a reflection of a companies policies regarding promotion and organization charts. Other times it's as described in Mr. Lunsford's comment that consistent learning and improvement may get recognized for promotion earlier than calendar years of performance. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
The problem here is: what does mean "Senior PM"? You will find quit different definitions most of them depending on each organization perception about what a senior PM is. In fact, if you as "what does mean to be a project manager?" you will surprise with the answers most of them from certified people. So, the first thing to do, is to agree about a PM is (mainly between the organizations). After that, you can work on detrmine different levels of seniority.
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Vincent Guerard
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Sergio You sum it uo well.
What is a PM? organization base mainly
Senior ? the organization also, in smaller organization could depend on the need
The problem here is: what does mean "Senior PM"? You will find quit different definitions most of them depending on each organization perception about what a senior PM is. In fact, if you as "what does mean to be a project manager?" you will surprise with the answers most of them from certified people. So, the first thing to do, is to agree about a PM is (mainly between the organizations). After that, you can work on detrmine different levels of seniority.
Sergio You sum it uo well.
What is a PM? organization base mainly
Senior ? the organization also, in smaller organization could depend on the need
Very subjective, not uniform Saving Changes...
Tobe PhelpsDirector of Digital Experience| Central New Mexico Community CollegeAlbuquerque, Nm, United States
It really does depend on the industry, the individual and the company culture. I have seen seniors with only 3-5 years in some companies and others that require 10+ Saving Changes...
Jerry WithersDirector of PM/PMO| Jemwit SystemsPflugerville, Tx, United States
As mentioned by others, this is a subjective determination. But you can develop a rubric around required/desired knowledge, skills, abilities, and attitudes appropriate to an organization. The most recent I've developed called for, among all of the other KSA's, a minimum of 6 years experience in project leadership/management/coordination roles. That seemed appropriate to my PMO group at that time and place. Saving Changes...
- Your company, with 4 years experience you are junior, your salary is like a junior, but they will "sell" you to a client as a Senior.
- The client, you were sold as a senior, but you do not know their processes, not even where the bathroom or restroom was, for them you're a junior.
- Yourself, how do you feel? yourself, what are your strengths, your weaknesses, how did you feel leading other projects, what was the feedback from your boss, client, peers or folks?
Often , the title or signature doesn't matter, but it will matter if you feel confident with you and your daily work.
Some HR or Headhunters tell me junior, other senior. (liked is the rate or salary) I know my skills and that allows me to improve. Saving Changes...
James BrookesAgile Project Manager| Cake Solutions ltdUnited Kingdom
It has to be matter of skill and experience rather than years. Although we pick up medals and scars throughout every project and experience. Would you rather someone may have years of bad experience or someone who is fresh faced. Seniority should be based on skill. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I think the seniority of a project manager has to be decided on the project size they have handled.
For example, I could be a projet manager handling small projects. Until I manage large projects, I don't have the breadth and depth necessary to be deemed senior. Saving Changes...
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