Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Feb 26, 2017 4:24 PM
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Why do you start a project? To create a product/service/result that will be the object to solve a business problem. What is the business problem? The need that emerges after strategy formulation defines objectives to achive in order to survive, growth and develop. Project starts when the business case is approved and the business case will contain all the information needed about the solution to aprove it. To get the information the business analyst must engage all the needed stakeholders. When the business case is approved and the project starts a revision about the stakeholders is made and the business analyst with the project manager (now, an assigned project manager) will engage the stakehodlers needed to plan, execute, monitoring, close the project. If inside the group of stakeholders you need IT people or any other then you must engage them.
This is not an ideal scenario. This is the scenario I live from years. I know that you can find what you described and I faced that. But is up to you to avoid that. We need to make our job as business analyst and project manager or any role that must fix this to unserstand that reactions are there because a reaction. Both roles have sence to work on this type or things. Both roles are not technical roles.
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1 reply by Drew Craig
Feb 27, 2017 7:28 AM
Drew Craig
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I absolutely agree Sergio.
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
Feb 27, 2017 7:12 AM
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This is not an ideal scenario. This is the scenario I live from years. I know that you can find what you described and I faced that. But is up to you to avoid that. We need to make our job as business analyst and project manager or any role that must fix this to unserstand that reactions are there because a reaction. Both roles have sence to work on this type or things. Both roles are not technical roles.
I absolutely agree Sergio. Saving Changes...
Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
We’re improving, but my organization often fails to include IT in a project’s earliest planning stages, when strategic decisions are being made regarding it. I think this is because some of our executives like to view themselves as creators of brilliant ideas, and IT as a group of peons that merely exists to implement them. Many executives refuse to listen when IT tells them something can’t be done, or must be done in a particular way. I think this executive arrogance stems from a fear of technology, and the possibility that acknowledging IT’s importance would diminish own their power. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 27, 2017 6:45 AM
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Sure Rami,
In projects in which require the support of IT, do you find that the Business group in need of the product or service goes through their solution exercises prematurely prior to including IT into the conversations, or making a decision to 'buy' prior to engaging with IT to ensure the solution can be integrated into the existing environment and architecture?
On large construction projects we always do that especially that everything is automated and they system should be linked to our client system in order for them to be able to login see all site inspections, certifications, and so on. Saving Changes...
You include the key or core team in initiation which may include IT. What does including mean? Estimates,server builds, networking diagrams, IT Data Center services, security, help desk, ...IT is a big shop.
Lots of differences and similarities in public and private sector. In what context; projects, consulting, service delivery, BA, processes, IT? Saving Changes...
My experience is often IT is include both not always consulted.
What I have seen is that in large private project a consortium is put in place and IT department are put in competition between the consortium members.
In short IT is not present at the start Saving Changes...
My organization is currently very poor at planning, need to improve a lot in planning.
I do work at private sector.
Due to lack of planning, always end up in workloads and failing to achieve commitments. Saving Changes...
Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
I work for a government organization, and it doesn't do a good job of including IT in its initial project planning stages. I think many of our business-focused people believe the IT department is just a bunch of geeks who only exist to enact their brilliant business ideas. They don't realize IT is a necessary component of *every* modern business process, and without IT's support their business ideas will never see the light of day. Saving Changes...
Philippe SchulerSenior Instructor/Lecturer in Project/Program/Account PMO Management| Independant ConsultantLes Choux, France
From my experience , IT and Business collaborate early in project planning. When the new Business project includes a big change in the supporting IT, both departments start Organizational Management Of Change activities sometimes before the project Initiatiating phase closes to align Business and IT views thru Awareness events. Another type of project where IT is involved in early planning activities is the Relocation Project. In yhis case it is impossible Business and IT planning pahses do not start together. Saving Changes...
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