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As you know, the sixth edition of the PMBOK Guide is out on 6 Sep 2017. Have you seen? What do you think of its size?

Of course, our intent is to not judge based on KG or number of papers but do you think the roughly 800 pages (without the Agile Practice Guide) is justified? If not, how to reduce the size?

Here are our thoughts: http://blog.sukad.com/20170907/how-to-redu...he-pmbok-guide/
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Sep 22, 2017 4:43 PM
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With all my due respect, and sorry if I did not understand the central issue into the discussion, from my point of view it has no sense to discuss about more or less amount of pages. We need to discuss about content. Do the content add value or not? In my personal opinion I fully sustain that is the best version I see from 1986 up to date. So, I think we need to read the whole document and more important to understand the whole document and then we need to talk about content not about the size.
Sergio

We have many posts discussing content - this specific one discuss size and is the size appropriate for the content.

No one is questioning the value of the PMBOK Guide. We can have a separate discussion thread on the value of this edition vs. the last or the first one.

However, setting these valuable topics aside and returning to the question of size. Is the current size of about 800 pages appropriate? Cannot we have the same valuable information in 600, 400, or 200 pages?
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
My point is: people have to read and to understand the content. After that people can make an opinion.I firmly believe that discuss about size has no sense. This BOK clearly explain what a project manager is or do inside the organizations.One of the keys is to understand the chapter 1-Introduction.
My recommendation is reading and understanding the document first. A "fast reading" is not enough in this case (please I am not saying that you made it).
With all my due respect, and you know I respect you and I read what you publish, here my answers:
1-discuss the amount of blank pages is a wasted of time.
2-when people read and understand the context then they will understand the reason
3-part 1 is the guide. part 2 is the bok. This is one of the greatest things done because now people will understand the difference between both. That is explained into the introduction.
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Sergio

I have read the exposure draft - all of it --- and I have contributed to it
I have read the standard (published) - All of it
I have read chapter 1
I have quickly reviewed all new materials
I did not re-read the stuff from the past

Of course, people can make their opinions. Where did you see that I am imposing mine? I am sharing mine.

I know there are many good changes and some bad changes. Size is one of the bad changes. We share these books with our class participants and to know there are so much duplication, inconsistencies, white spaces, etc. it is just adding to complexity and waste of paper.

By the way, my comments on size were originally published on the 5th edition and repeating them now. I thought 600 pages were too much and 800 pages it is even worst.

Let me close with a question: is the intention to help people learn PM the PMI way and understand the guide by reading it - or skip reading it and go to ITTO for PMP exam purposes? We want to encourage people to read it so we can avoid the numerous confusing areas about it.

So my friend, my comment about size is not only about the environment and killing trees but also about utility. This will scare people off not encourage them.

Anyway - it is clear we have differences of opinions here and that is healthy and I respect that.
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Sep 23, 2017 8:06 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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Mounir, english is not my native language so my previous comment could not have the sense I´d like. First, I am not trying to say that you did not read the document. Second, I am not tying to say that you are tying to imposing your opinion. And as you mentioned, in my personal opinion in this case is not enough to read it. People have to understand it. For that reason I started publishing a series of articles with the explanation about each chapter and references to additional information people could read to understand it.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Mounir, english is not my native language so my previous comment could not have the sense I´d like. First, I am not trying to say that you did not read the document. Second, I am not tying to say that you are tying to imposing your opinion. And as you mentioned, in my personal opinion in this case is not enough to read it. People have to understand it. For that reason I started publishing a series of articles with the explanation about each chapter and references to additional information people could read to understand it.
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