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OPM3 4th edition
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Hi,

Do you know when OPM3 4th edition will be published?

thanks,
duha
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One should not hold their breath on that one.
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I was part of the group of authors and reviewers. It will be published by the middle of the year as far as I know.
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1 reply by Sante Vergini
Jan 05, 2018 5:27 AM
Sante Vergini
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Thanks for the update Sergio.
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Jan 05, 2018 5:11 AM
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I was part of the group of authors and reviewers. It will be published by the middle of the year as far as I know.
Thanks for the update Sergio.
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I thank you all.. Actually i need those directories ( capability, improvement planning, kp?'s, outcomes) which is not included in OPM3 third edition... I think have to wait or use another models to make assesment. I would be grateful hearing your advices if you could share with me.
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2 replies by Sergio Luis Conte and Vincent Guerard
Jan 05, 2018 10:01 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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Those will not be included in version 4. All you need has to be defined for your organization. You will not find it into a maturity model
Jan 08, 2018 8:34 PM
Vincent Guerard
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Duha,

I'm not an expert but my understanding is that CMMI is ready for main stream, not OPM3 considering the missing elements.
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Jan 05, 2018 6:32 AM
Replying to Duha Tokgöz
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I thank you all.. Actually i need those directories ( capability, improvement planning, kp?'s, outcomes) which is not included in OPM3 third edition... I think have to wait or use another models to make assesment. I would be grateful hearing your advices if you could share with me.
Those will not be included in version 4. All you need has to be defined for your organization. You will not find it into a maturity model
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The Capability-Outcome directories won't be included? That means OPM3 will be useless. I led the team that originally created OPM3, and we spent years developing the Capability-Outcome directories, which was what OPM3 was. The SAM self-assessment mechanism was a misguided afterthought that was foisted upon us and which doesn't work. That is explained at http://www.opmexperts.com/pmi And the book itself (originally called the "Knowledge Foundation") was merely packaging. The Capability-Outcome directories were always the heart of OPM3, and they are what is necessary in order to know what to do to move from one level of maturity to the next in OPM3. It has always been the case that you could choose to exclude Capability-Outcome strings that weren't relevant to your own organization. But without ANY of this essential content, OPM3 will remain worthless. This is explained here: http://www.opmexperts.com/opm3/ For these reasons, my firm has created an alternative model that is superior to OPM3: see http://www.opmexperts.com/simple/ It is the "Strategy Implementation Maturity Protocol for Learning Enterprises" or "SIMPLE®," an incisive framework that has been used in AT&T, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, Delta Airlines, Fiserv, McKesson, Sun Trust, Verizon, Flowserve, Pentair, and many others.
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An update of OPM3 that will still not include key element.

What is the point?

A way to increase PMI revenue!
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Jan 05, 2018 6:32 AM
Replying to Duha Tokgöz
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I thank you all.. Actually i need those directories ( capability, improvement planning, kp?'s, outcomes) which is not included in OPM3 third edition... I think have to wait or use another models to make assesment. I would be grateful hearing your advices if you could share with me.
Duha,

I'm not an expert but my understanding is that CMMI is ready for main stream, not OPM3 considering the missing elements.
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Thank you all for answering my questions and your advices also. I also agree with Vincent Guerard and John Schlichter. The model is not complete with these elements presented in the OPM3 3rd edition. Users of this model need more to make more effective and useful assesment and to continue for drawing a good improvement roadmap.
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If you let me, I will say: 1-you do not need OPM to evaluate your maturity. You do not need it at all. You have maturity models (real maturity models) outside there. 2-in the future do not loss the opportunity to participate on the review of the standard. In my personal opinion, is the only way to improve the models created by the PMI.
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