True True - No Letters are always good as long as they are meaningful :D
I saw a funny blog once about someone complaining about people with many letters (probably because they had none). Anyway, at the end of the post they had their name and added fictitious titles like AA, ABB, ACCA, ABAA, AAZ just to show (in their opinion) that letters don't mean anything. But we letter collectors know better right? ;-)
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Apr 11, 2018 6:14 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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I saw a funny blog once about someone complaining about people with many letters (probably because they had none). Anyway, at the end of the post they had their name and added fictitious titles like AA, ABB, ACCA, ABAA, AAZ just to show (in their opinion) that letters don't mean anything. But we letter collectors know better right? ;-)
I think there are courses and certifications for Estimator, however if for each domain of PMI there will be certifications then I guess the law of diminishing returns kicks in.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Apr 11, 2018 11:38 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Riyadh: I do strongly believe that the Law of Diminishing Returns doesn’t apply here at all. This isca different certificate, different project my friend.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Apr 11, 2018 10:50 PM
Replying to Riyadh Salih
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I think there are courses and certifications for Estimator, however if for each domain of PMI there will be certifications then I guess the law of diminishing returns kicks in.
Riyadh: I do strongly believe that the Law of Diminishing Returns doesn’t apply here at all. This isca different certificate, different project my friend.
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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Apr 12, 2018 12:39 AM
Riyadh Salih
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Rami, I do have a lot of respect for you and your desire to have more designations after the name but Rami sometime I think well If some one write three lines or four after his name in the business card then it will looks crowded, I have different believe here if some one get six sigma black belt then I think just writing black belt would be sufficient not to write yellow and green belt because it would be understood you can not achieve black without passing green or some one master degree in civil engineering it would be enough not to write Bachelor degree because same thing you must have achieved your bachelor before achieving master.
I like the story of Ted Rogers as you know we both live in Canada so Ted is the owner of Rogers Wireless and after building that empire of billions of dollars his business card before his death was still reading Ted Rogers, sales rep.
Riyadh: I do strongly believe that the Law of Diminishing Returns doesn’t apply here at all. This isca different certificate, different project my friend.
Rami, I do have a lot of respect for you and your desire to have more designations after the name but Rami sometime I think well If some one write three lines or four after his name in the business card then it will looks crowded, I have different believe here if some one get six sigma black belt then I think just writing black belt would be sufficient not to write yellow and green belt because it would be understood you can not achieve black without passing green or some one master degree in civil engineering it would be enough not to write Bachelor degree because same thing you must have achieved your bachelor before achieving master.
I like the story of Ted Rogers as you know we both live in Canada so Ted is the owner of Rogers Wireless and after building that empire of billions of dollars his business card before his death was still reading Ted Rogers, sales rep.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Apr 12, 2018 12:58 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Riyadh,
I do have lots of respect for you too but each one of us has their own point of view and I am not sure I can relate to how your comment about having so many letters after the name or me earning so many designations is related to the topic of discussion. I am not even sure what brought this subject up out of the blue but since you’ve opened the subject then all I can say is the following:
1- Putting the letters after the name is a personal preference so it might look crowded for you, but for others not.
2- If you are attaining different levels from the same certification, you only put the highest level you’ve achieved: In case you obtain LSSYB and LSSGB, you put LSSGB and another example is PSM I & II, you put PSM II. I think we all agree on this as it is common sense and I’ve never seen anyone so far putting all levels from the same certification after his name. It is always the highest level as it is understood that all previous levels were achieved.
3- What you see on social media, is different from what you see on professional work level in terms of the letters. Ive seen many putting lots of letters after their name on LinkedIn but their email signature is different and most importantly their business card is different (Mentions only a few). For example, my business card mentions only PMP and B.Eng, nothing more. It doesn’t make sense to state all certifications on a business card.
4- I personally do the dertifications for so many reasons of which one of them is that I learn from the education process and the journey. I learn a lot.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Apr 12, 2018 12:39 AM
Replying to Riyadh Salih
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Rami, I do have a lot of respect for you and your desire to have more designations after the name but Rami sometime I think well If some one write three lines or four after his name in the business card then it will looks crowded, I have different believe here if some one get six sigma black belt then I think just writing black belt would be sufficient not to write yellow and green belt because it would be understood you can not achieve black without passing green or some one master degree in civil engineering it would be enough not to write Bachelor degree because same thing you must have achieved your bachelor before achieving master.
I like the story of Ted Rogers as you know we both live in Canada so Ted is the owner of Rogers Wireless and after building that empire of billions of dollars his business card before his death was still reading Ted Rogers, sales rep.
Riyadh,
I do have lots of respect for you too but each one of us has their own point of view and I am not sure I can relate to how your comment about having so many letters after the name or me earning so many designations is related to the topic of discussion. I am not even sure what brought this subject up out of the blue but since you’ve opened the subject then all I can say is the following:
1- Putting the letters after the name is a personal preference so it might look crowded for you, but for others not.
2- If you are attaining different levels from the same certification, you only put the highest level you’ve achieved: In case you obtain LSSYB and LSSGB, you put LSSGB and another example is PSM I & II, you put PSM II. I think we all agree on this as it is common sense and I’ve never seen anyone so far putting all levels from the same certification after his name. It is always the highest level as it is understood that all previous levels were achieved.
3- What you see on social media, is different from what you see on professional work level in terms of the letters. Ive seen many putting lots of letters after their name on LinkedIn but their email signature is different and most importantly their business card is different (Mentions only a few). For example, my business card mentions only PMP and B.Eng, nothing more. It doesn’t make sense to state all certifications on a business card.
4- I personally do the dertifications for so many reasons of which one of them is that I learn from the education process and the journey. I learn a lot.
I trust this clarifies your concerns Riyadh.
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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Apr 12, 2018 1:37 AM
Riyadh Salih
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Rami, so we are in line though I did not meant the letters after your name in particular I was just saying that in general as I was always thinking about it but now you made it clear so cheers
I do have lots of respect for you too but each one of us has their own point of view and I am not sure I can relate to how your comment about having so many letters after the name or me earning so many designations is related to the topic of discussion. I am not even sure what brought this subject up out of the blue but since you’ve opened the subject then all I can say is the following:
1- Putting the letters after the name is a personal preference so it might look crowded for you, but for others not.
2- If you are attaining different levels from the same certification, you only put the highest level you’ve achieved: In case you obtain LSSYB and LSSGB, you put LSSGB and another example is PSM I & II, you put PSM II. I think we all agree on this as it is common sense and I’ve never seen anyone so far putting all levels from the same certification after his name. It is always the highest level as it is understood that all previous levels were achieved.
3- What you see on social media, is different from what you see on professional work level in terms of the letters. Ive seen many putting lots of letters after their name on LinkedIn but their email signature is different and most importantly their business card is different (Mentions only a few). For example, my business card mentions only PMP and B.Eng, nothing more. It doesn’t make sense to state all certifications on a business card.
4- I personally do the dertifications for so many reasons of which one of them is that I learn from the education process and the journey. I learn a lot.
I trust this clarifies your concerns Riyadh.
Rami, so we are in line though I did not meant the letters after your name in particular I was just saying that in general as I was always thinking about it but now you made it clear so cheers
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