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High Salary or Great Working Environment ?
If you had to chose between a large company offering a decent salary and benefits and another small one offering a reasonably good salary but have great working environment in many ways, which one would you chose ?
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If I could choose, I go for the reasonably good salary with great working environment. One spend 8 plus hours a day there, may as well enjoy it.
Once I heard the story of 3 employees so happy at work; their job was to open the garbage bags to separate the items and pass them to different bins; they have a great personal relationship that the environment was secondary; they were having a party every single day.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Apr 11, 2018 5:37 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I fully agree with you Omar. This is a great way to look at it.
I think it is a bit of a balancing act. On the surface I would say to always go for the better working environment. But then you also need to look at the difference in the salary. I know people who have taken major salary cuts to have a better working environment. But then they find themselves struggling at home. If you are a 2 salary household that will factor into your decision as well.
And it will also depend on your risk tolerance. With money, I am risk adverse. Which is why I do not gamble even though I am a pretty decent poker player :)
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Apr 11, 2018 5:40 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Dinah, Interesting Point of view.

Today we learned three things about you: You own a house, a good poker player and you were laid off twice :D

Now you and Sante can go play poker together.
I strive for both. It doesn't necessarily have to be either. And to be honest, the mentioned scenario could easily be switched. That said, there is also the question of where in the individual is in their career. Sometimes it is necessary to make sacrifices until you are at a place to make concessions.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Apr 11, 2018 5:38 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Andrew, you love to complicate things :D (Kidding)

I tried to be specific about the scenario - You have to chose either or ? Not both, not another scenario. What's your choice ?
Rami -

In Canada, up to half of our income goes to taxes and having worked at places with big salary but toxic environments I will always choose a decent salary but a great working environment.

This means I respect the values and culture of the company as a whole, enjoy a mutually beneficial working relationship with my direct manager and appreciate the social interaction and collaboration within my team.

Kiron
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Apr 11, 2018 5:37 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I fulyl agree with you Kiron. I look at things in the same manner and I currently am working in a good environment.
Apr 11, 2018 1:25 PM
Replying to Omar Santos
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If I could choose, I go for the reasonably good salary with great working environment. One spend 8 plus hours a day there, may as well enjoy it.
Once I heard the story of 3 employees so happy at work; their job was to open the garbage bags to separate the items and pass them to different bins; they have a great personal relationship that the environment was secondary; they were having a party every single day.
I fully agree with you Omar. This is a great way to look at it.
Apr 11, 2018 2:59 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Rami -

In Canada, up to half of our income goes to taxes and having worked at places with big salary but toxic environments I will always choose a decent salary but a great working environment.

This means I respect the values and culture of the company as a whole, enjoy a mutually beneficial working relationship with my direct manager and appreciate the social interaction and collaboration within my team.

Kiron
I fulyl agree with you Kiron. I look at things in the same manner and I currently am working in a good environment.
Apr 11, 2018 1:37 PM
Replying to Andrew Craig
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I strive for both. It doesn't necessarily have to be either. And to be honest, the mentioned scenario could easily be switched. That said, there is also the question of where in the individual is in their career. Sometimes it is necessary to make sacrifices until you are at a place to make concessions.
Andrew, you love to complicate things :D (Kidding)

I tried to be specific about the scenario - You have to chose either or ? Not both, not another scenario. What's your choice ?
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1 reply by Andrew Craig
Apr 11, 2018 6:25 PM
Andrew Craig
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Haha. But tbh, it is so complicated. Primary responsibility is to support the needs of my family - so obviously salary and benefits. Though if I’m stressed and not mentally stable, that’s not good either. My point is we don’t have to choose.
To play along I’ll choose door #2; assuming benefits are good in that option too. And reasonable is relative :)
Apr 11, 2018 1:32 PM
Replying to Dinah Young
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I think it is a bit of a balancing act. On the surface I would say to always go for the better working environment. But then you also need to look at the difference in the salary. I know people who have taken major salary cuts to have a better working environment. But then they find themselves struggling at home. If you are a 2 salary household that will factor into your decision as well.
And it will also depend on your risk tolerance. With money, I am risk adverse. Which is why I do not gamble even though I am a pretty decent poker player :)
Dinah, Interesting Point of view.

Today we learned three things about you: You own a house, a good poker player and you were laid off twice :D

Now you and Sante can go play poker together.
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1 reply by Dinah Young
Apr 12, 2018 9:44 AM
Dinah Young
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Sorry to tell Sante, I was in Melbourne a year and a half ago and missed the opportunity to play poker. I did take the opportunity to visit several of the wineries in the area though :)
Lesson learned : I will chose only great working environment as long as I can pay my bills.
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2 replies by José Manuel Zárate Cano and Rami Kaibni
Apr 11, 2018 6:19 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I share the same lesson learned with you Kevin. 100%
Apr 12, 2018 11:07 PM
José Manuel Zárate Cano
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l agree with you, is better have a great work environment, but if you can pay your bills and don't have to think how get more money in other job is better that all.
Apr 11, 2018 6:16 PM
Replying to Kevin Drake
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Lesson learned : I will chose only great working environment as long as I can pay my bills.
I share the same lesson learned with you Kevin. 100%
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1 reply by Kevin Drake
Apr 12, 2018 3:26 AM
Kevin Drake
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No matter the price, it is not worth it.
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