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Why was the project manager fired..?

In the cartoon above, an executive asks which of the two projects shown below was better managed. When an eager and overconfident project manager answered back, the executive fired him. Questions:

  • Which project, project #1 or project #2, was really better managed..?
  • Was the executive justifed in firing the eager and overconfident project manager..?
  • What does this say about the use and value of the Project Management Triangle..?

Answers to be posted in a few weeks. In the meantime, your perspectives and opinions are welcomed..!

(CLICK TO SEE THE ANSWER TO THIS QUIZ ON PAGE 2 OF THIS BLOG - Posted by Mark Price Perry on Thursday, December 8, 2011)

 

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Andy Heffner Clifton Park, Ny, United States
I change my answer; Obviously, the PM was fired because he was correct. He was also the PM on project number 2 which was completed behind schedule because he bungled it with incompetence.

Or...he was the PM on project number 1, and completed it on schedule while monopolizing resources and failing to support his teammate who was having problems starting with task 1.

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Wayne Mack Retired| Retired South Riding, Va, United States
1) Which project was managed better? I agree with Wai Mun Koo, there really needs to be a clear definition of "managed". To answer from just the data provided, I would have to rely on the "Overall Status" metric, which is green for #1 and yellow for #2. One observation on project #2, slipped schedule without cost overrun is usually an indication of a resource issue. Assuming just labor costs, either resources were not available as planned - stolen for other work or out sick, etc - or lower cost resources were resources were used - used junior staff instead of senior staff. If project #2 was late due to unanticipated difficulties I would expect to see a shift in both cost and schedule.


2) Was the firing justified? No. A punitive management style and me do not mix.


3) What does this say about the PM triangle? Only that it is not the only thing to consider. Cost, schedule, and scope are still important measures, but other measures may also be important. Also, dashboards should be used to spark discussion, not viewed as an end in themselves.

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Mark Price Perry Business Driven PMO Evangelist| BOT International Orlando, Fl, United States
Dear Friends, thank you for your excellent insights and comments regarding the "Why was the project manager fired" exercise..! As is so often the case, we learn so much from each other. So, thank you so very much again for sharing your insights, perspectives, and wisdom.

As for the exercise, this little exercise is one of several exercises that I have given over the last several years in PMO workshops all around the world. The purpose of this exercise is to invite discussion and debate about how we approach the practical application of project management in today''''''''s business reality. There are some that advocate the premise that there needs to be much more business acumen and judgment in how we go about managing projects and the PMO and that we should not just look to technical project management measures as if in a vacuum.


I suppose that I would count myself as one who also agrees with this premise. And, per the recent Gartner Group PPM and IT Governance Summit, there is no more committed person to this premise than the CEO of PMI, Mark Langley, who commented "If we only view project success in terms of the triple constraints (scope, time, cost), then project management will fail us all." Mr. Langley went on to say that today''''''''s businesses and today''''''''s PMO and project leaders need a new project management triangle - one that has at its three points technical project management (scope, time cost), business acumen, and technology leadership. These and other comments by Mr. Langley were extremely well received by the audience of CIOs of leading Fortune 1000 firms and on several occasions he received sustained applause at his business driven, practical application message.


But back to the exercise. This exercise is purposely vague. It is purposely vague in order to entice a conversation and point of view and perhaps bias. If all of the details were made available at the onset, then such an exercise would be far less interesting and insightful. In fact, if all of the facts were served up, then it would not be an exercise at all, rather just a scenario.


In the case of these two projects, both are actually the exact same project. The project was not that complex nor long for that matter. The product of the project was a new web order entry system. As soon as the system went live, the business would enjoy a one million dollar per month benefit stream. The executive sponsors of the project expressed their desire to have this capability delivered as soon as possible. The executives didn''''''''t even mind if the project team had to work nights and weekends and if the project incurred costs in excess of the initial plan. They just wanted that million dollar per month benefit stream to start as soon as possible. Obviously, they wanted a product that would work.


The first project manager felt that it was important that all of the project tasks completed as planned, as according to this project manager, that was the sign of good project management. Though some tasks could have completed earlier, the project manager was more concerned with avoiding a late completion of tasks. And in fact, in reviewing the task estimates with the project team members, the project manager encouraged the team members to provide a very safe estimate that they knew they could make as opposed to being more aggressive in order to complete the tasks (and project) earlier. The project manager reviewed the plan with the sponsor and the sponsor agreed to it - not knowing the degree of rigor that the project manager used (or did not use) in getting those task estimates. So the project manager finished the project in 125 days and all of the tasks completed on time.


The second project manager, having taken what the executives said as important, was not at all concerned over having tasks scheduled more aggressively and perhaps missing some of these more aggressive dates. In fact the second project manager viewed that as quite important in squeezing out as much time as possible in the overall project effort. And, the executives wanted and supported this very approach. So rather than asking for safe estimates, the second project manager asked for aggressive estimates and challenged the team members as opposed to giving them buffer. Though some tasks finished late and the project overall finished later than planned, 110 days vs. 100 days, it finished 15 mandays earlier than that of project manager #1 whose project finished in 125 days. And actually, the 15 mandays was 21 calendars days which equated to a $700,000 benefit on account of finishing earlier than the first project.


So, in this particular case, without a doubt Project Manager #2 did a better job of managing the project irrespective of what the green, yellow, and red status indicators might have led one to think.


Of course, by design, none of this project context was made available up front as part of the exercise. Rather the purpose of the exercise (like Mr. Langley, the CEO of PMI pleads) was to show a vivid example of how easy it is to incorrectly assume that good project measures (as in status indicators of technical project management) means good project management.


Note: there could have been a completely different business context to the project, such as a project that does not have an imminent time to market benefit and that resolutely requires an exact date of completion for all tasks and the project that can be known and achieved, etc, for which the first project with all of the green indicators would have been the better managed project.


Congrats to all of you who played..! You all got this example correct and I suppose you all saw through it right away. Perhaps gantthead members are highly skilled and experienced, but as a comparison to what I have seen vis a vie past PMO workshops where we do this exercise:



  • About one third of the workshop attendees insist that the first project was better managed no matter what the business context. And they cite the fact that the sponsor agreed to the project and was happy with the outcome as proof. This is not the right answer and this is what our CEO of PMI warns us about!

  • Another third of the workshop attendees assume a context and provide a conditional answer. Based upon what the parameters of the project might be (which are not provided in the exercise), a case could be made that either project could have been better managed. This is the correct answer.

  • And another third of the attendees refuse to play on grounds that there is not enough information to make a call. And that is okay too. Not everyone likes to take a position without sufficient facts. However, part of the purpose of the exercise is to discuss and highlight how in many businesses that is exactly what takes place! And with the usual conviction that the first project, the one with all of the green status indicators, was the better managed project. It happens.


There are several points to the exercise. The key point being that project management and project management techniques are a means to an end - but not the end unto themselves. Perhaps no one explains this better than PMO gurus Steve Rollins and Gerald Kendall who in their book, Advanced Project Portfolio Management and the PMO, talk about the importance of benefit delivery and even propose a "Deliver Now" PMO model, one in which it might be perfectly advantageous to miss one or more of the technical project management (scope, time, cost) baseline measures in favor of the product of the project outcome. Simply put, is it better to miss a cost target of $10,000 in favor of a realized benefit of $1,000,000 or is it better to make the planned cost target and forgo the opportunity to realize the $1,000,000 realized benefit? This is a business decision, not a technique or calculation that runs on auto-pilot.


In addition to the project management context to this at the project manager level, there is a context of all of this that resides with the executive and leadership team. Those executive and leadership teams that take the view that a project that has tasks in a status of anything but green are poorly managed projects may (or may not be) contributing to this problem.


Bottom line, project management can be applied in a manner that is indifferent to the product of the project context or project management can be applied in a manner that is a driver of the product of the project context. Surprisingly, not everyone sees this the same way. So glad that all of you that had a play at this exercise..! Thanks again and stayed tuned for the next exercise "Why did the project manager get promoted to PMO manager?"



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David Irwin Project Manager| Contractor Bangor, N.Ireland, United Kingdom
Mark
I'd like to add that just because Project#1 was continually green throughout its life doesn't necessarily mean that it had too much slack built in. Why must we always push our teams to the edge? Provided we meet the client’s expectations and contractual obligations then all involved will benefit.

(Unless of course we are from a team of ‘management consultants’ in which case Project#2 was ‘striving for excellence’ by ‘pushing the envelope’ and ‘attaining synergy’ with its world class talent!) I suspect that there may have been an element of personality clash or politics as to why PM#1 was fired :)

Love the game, excellent way to get people talking.
Thanks


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Mark Price Perry Business Driven PMO Evangelist| BOT International Orlando, Fl, United States
David, excellent point and advice. Also please note that in the context of the exercise, PM#1 wasn''t fired (I could have done a better job explaining that!). Rather when the executive asked two of his PMO staff which of the two projects was better managed, the executive was unhappy with the response of the project manager that said that the first project was better managed. And the reason the executive was unhappy was because there could be a business case and context that could support either of the two projects as being the better managed.

For example, using the same dashboard of the two projects as a comparison, if the business context was a to manage a project that was containing an outbreak of a terrible, deadly virus in a remote village in which hundreds of people die each day until the product of the project is delivered, then it would be very hard to argue that project #1 (the one that had nothing but green indicators but that finished 15 days later than the second project) was the better managed project of the two.


And conversely, one could argue that if the business context of the project compelled that must make task completion dates and a must make project completion date must be in place (I can think of numerous examples of projects where this might be the case), then project #1 does a better job of meeting this project context and condition. And the fact project #1 took longer than project #2 might very well be of no consequence.


The executive wanted PMs (and management and senior leadership too by the way) that understand the business context of the projects and that used the most appropriate project management techniques in support of that business case. Hence, when the project manager answered the question as he did, it was a sign that the PM did not have the level of business acumen that the executive felt was needed to be an acceptable project manager. In fact, if the project manager would have answered that project #2 was the better managed project, he also would have been fired. Like Wai Mun and so many others spotted and wisely advised, you can''t tell which project is better just by looking at that dashboard. Additional information, the context of the project, is required.


Great advice by all. I hope no one was irritated by the "tricked-up" nature of the question. But again and surprisingly, though perhaps not here in the gantthead community, when shown the two projects and asked, many folks assume that project #1 was the better managed project. And that is problematic.



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Naomi Caietti Senior Project Manager | ePMO | Higher Education | Healthcare & IT| Linkedin.com/In/NaomiCaietti
Mark:
Excellent case study article. Great discussion from those who've been in the trenches. Dashboards, gotta love them but they serve a purpose for a certain audience. Can't wait for the next one. Thanks for keeping us on our toes!!

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Julie Goff Brisbane, Q, Australia
There seems to be an assumption in the responses that because project 2 finished earlier than project 1 then it was better for the business. Why, what are you basing that assumption on? This gantt shows us very little and what if project 1 was needed before project 2''s product could be utilised? Were they related? This gantt just shows two projects, one with slippage and one without, no opinion can be made as to which was better managed without more information.

As previously mentioned all green does raise alarm bells, but if the tasks are straightforward and the project not complex then this could be the norm, especially if this a company that regularly runs projects of similar types.

Was project 2 more complex and then needed more "active" project management?

As to why the project manager was sacked - he didn''t ask any questions!

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Mark Price Perry Business Driven PMO Evangelist| BOT International Orlando, Fl, United States
Hi Julie, great comment and advice. You are exactly right. The exercise is framed purposely vague and only shows two projects - one that finished earlier, one that finished later, and a few status indicators. The full context of the project and answer to the question (why was the project manager fired?) is provided in a subsequent post after folks had a chance to play. This answer is on page two of the post replies, so you might not have spotted it. This little exercise reveals how many folks (not all - and not you!) often make incorrect conclusions and assume that "green status indicators" means that the project was managed well. But in fact, this may or may not be the case. And as a result, this kind of thinking can lead to bad project management and business management. Great advice and perspective, thanks so much for participating..!

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Vasoula Christoforides Project Manager Surrey, United Kingdom
Perhaps project 1 should not have been a project assignment in the first place! real projects never have green status from start to finish! it is just too easy and in the real world of project management it just demonstrates wasted project resources that could have been assigned\utilised for other projects in demand; Project 1 falls within the day to day operational process. The Project Manager was fired for failing to understand the fundamentals of project management and the difference between projects that deliver business requirments with added value to the organisation and the ones that are basically task orientated filling in documents and merely ticking the boxes.

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Wayne Mack Retired| Retired South Riding, Va, United States
Given the additional information, I am more inclined to say project #1 was better managed. This seems to be a case where the PM in project #2 was inclined to promise the sponsor anything. My reasoning:


As both are the same project, I will assume that each of the tasks were the same. As is it a high priority project, I will assume that each project was fully staffed and none of the staff were reassigned during the project. This would imply both projects are staffed at the same level and I assume with the same staff.


Given the above, to complete 25 day tasks in 20 days means planning to have the staff work 10 hour days instead of 8 hour days (starting on New Year's day). Task 1 worked out with this approach. Task 2, however, took 23 days without incurring cost increases, implying the staff has fallen back to 8.7 hour days. Apparently the staff was then read the riot act and was back to working 10 hour days for Task 3, before falling back to 8 hour days for Task 4. Back to 10 hour days to finish Task 5 in its allotted 20 days.


One can only speculate on the delivered results of the projects, but I would expect that the quality level of project #2 would have suffered compared to project #1. I would also suspect the staff of project #2, presumably some of the company's best and brightest as this is a critical deliverable, are completely burned out after nearly a half year of being pushed to work overtime and will underperform for several months, if they do not quit outright.


I am not sure that project #2, which apparently took the approach to promise anything and then work the staff to death to meet it, was the better managed project. Given that the corporate culture laid out was one of almost arbitrary firings, I can understand the pressures the project manager may have faced, but I fail to see how that translates into better management.


Dashboard measures, though they do not tell the whole story certainly do provide indicators of where further explanation may be valuable.


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Laszlo Retfalvi P.Eng. PMP PMI-RMP General Manager and Principal| Retfalvi and Associates Inc. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Mark -

Great exercise.

My view is I do not put too much reliance on schedules as most schedules developed by PMs tend to be optimistic, and do not incorporate activity uncertainty or risk. So based on this, I have developed a view that its never as good as it seems nor is it as bad as it seems.

Based on this and the status as presented, my opinion is both were not well managed. My first reaction if I were presented these would be do we have a clear understanding of what G, Y, or R mean ? What is the metric ? How do I know we got done what we said we were going to get done ? Even if we did deliver the specifics of the project, did it deliver value to the organization ? This is a short coming on the PM triangle.

As well, schedule almost always has an effect on cost. So when I see an R status on schedule with a G status on cost, I immediately get suspicious of the data.

Laszlo



shamlen
Interesting reading. I have been doing Project Management for less than a year and agree that timelines are quite aggressive now. Based on that, I don't think a PM should be fired if buffers are built into the project plan. Having buffers means the project delivers all the 9 aspects of project Management. Quality is not compromised. Although I am now looking forward to see what the answer is. thanks

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Mark Price Perry Business Driven PMO Evangelist| BOT International Orlando, Fl, United States
Hi Shamlen, thanks for the post. The detailed answer is in my long response which is now on the second page of replies (see Wednesday, December 7, 2011 10:13:39 PM GMT). Please note, in this exercise neither of the project managers were fired. Rather, an executive asks two of his staff to have a look at two projects (per the info provided) and to comment on which was better managed. It is a trick question. Based upon the context of the project, a case could be made that either project was the better managed. That is why the executive fired the member of his team that answered, without knowing or even asking what the business context of the project was, that project 1 had been managed better. And had the member of his staff answered that project 2 was the better managed, he still would have been fired.

This little exercise brings up a number of points. One point is that project management and project management techniques are a means to an end - but not the end unto themselves. Hence, projects with different contexts might need to be managed differently and this impacts how project measures might need to be viewed. Another point is the tendency to assume that having all green indicators, even if truthful, is a sign of a better managed project. Again, it may or may not be, it depends upon the context of the project. Many experts speak to and have written about this and this little exercise is an attempt to demonstrate it. Thanks so much for contributing your insights.



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Mark Price Perry Business Driven PMO Evangelist| BOT International Orlando, Fl, United States
Hi Wayne, great post and insights. The scenario you posed no doubt happens too!

However, in this little example, the scenario and context is quite different. Both projects had the same product of the project quality. And rather than being read the riot act, all throughout project 2, the team was commended for doing their best to delivery the project as soon as possible. And the project manager was also commended for scheduling the project as aggressively as possible, which in this particular case for this project was what the sponsors had asked the project manager to do. Hence, having a few tasks that completed later than aggressively planned was not viewed as poor project management, rather it was not unexpected.


To the contrary, it was project manager #1 that was read the riot act for not being more aggressive. Rather than paying heed to what the sponsors wanted by way of rapid product of the project delivery and aggressive scheduling, project manager #1 was more concerned with making all of the task dates as planned and having all of those green indicators. Though it was project manager #2 that finished late (that is project manager #2 finished later than his aggressive plan), it was project manager #1 that finished later.


Also very important to note, project manager #2 did not take the approach of promising anything and then working the staff to death. To the contrary. Just as the sponsors explained to project manage #2 the context of the project, so too did project manager #2 explain to the project team the context of the project. Also the corporate culture (and somewhat the point of this little exercise) was not one of arbitrary firings. Rather the corporate culture was one of understanding the context to the work that is being done and exhibiting the ability to apply the appropriate management and project management techniques. Perhaps I could have framed this exercise better, but I thought (at the time) that the title would get a lot of eyeballs to the post.


You asked how does all of this translate into better management..? Not to repeat it, but I hope the long answer to the exercise that I gave which is now on page two of all of the post replies (Wednesday, December 7, 2011 10:13:39 PM GMT) provides this explanation. And, if I again can quote the comments of Mark Langley, the CEO of PMI, that were made at the Gartner Group PPM Summit, "If we only view project success in terms of the triple constraints (scope, time, cost), then project management will fail us all." Mr. Langley went on to say that today's businesses and today's PMO and project leaders need a new project management triangle - one that has at its three points technical project management (scope, time cost), business acumen, and technology leadership." This little exercise was an attempt to give an example of this.


Bottom line, project management can be applied in a manner that is indifferent to the product of the project context or project management can be applied in a manner that is a driver of the product of the project context. Understanding and applying this is what results in better management - both better project management and better business management. Thanks again for your keen insights.



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Vasoula Christoforides Project Manager Surrey, United Kingdom
Thank you for the answer! it was a trick question but good fun!.

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Mark Price Perry Business Driven PMO Evangelist| BOT International Orlando, Fl, United States
Hi Vasoula, so glad that you found this "tricked-up" exercise enjoyable! As always, once the full context of the project environment is disclosed, most folks see the point of the exercise right away. There are a few project managers that cling on to the notion that the project with nothing but those green indicators must be the better managed project. Ironically, when I do this exercise with Agile software developer folks, they also show a bias and predisposed position, but their bias is that the project that finished faster is the better managed project - irrespective of the project context. Though there could easily be a context that the project that finished in less time but late according to its plan could be much worse for the organization (I could give many examples of this), some of these folks have difficulty with that notion. Thanks for your insights and thanks so much for playing..!

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Andy Rosengard IT Service Delivery | Bowman Consulting Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, United States
I think the issue here is the assumption that the PM for project 1 faced no adversity hence the green status. Yet because the PM for project 2 had to deal with some scheduling issues and was still able to control costs, the PM ran her project better.

I would submit that PM 1 had better defined business requirements and a better risk management plan.

I have read here that if a project is in the green throughout something is terribly wrong. What we need to look at are the variances that make up the SPI and CPI and determine whether the fluctuation was significant. For all we know, the SPI and CPI could have been within .1 of the variance.

A manager without adequate knowledge of PM methodology can make a lot of assumptions by looking at a high level dashboard. Drilling down into the numbers is a different story.



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Mark Price Perry Business Driven PMO Evangelist| BOT International Orlando, Fl, United States
Andrew, great advice and perspectives. As you suggest, drilling down into the numbers (and I would add the facts of the context of the project effort) reveals so much more than any high level dashboard. That is one important point of this little exercise. The other point, and the main point of this exercise, is that the context of the project and what the project sponsors and stakeholders want from the project effort is quite important and should not be taken for granted. For certain projects in which there is a critical sense of urgency (there are many examples of this) and in which the project sponsor and key stakeholders have alerted the PM that they want aggressive task scheduling in order to complete the project as soon as possible and for which they are even prepared and willing to miss aggressive schedule dates, work nights and weekends, and even hold cost and quality subordinate, etc; an "all green" dashboard of project measures is very likely to be a tell-tale sign the the PM is not listening nor managing the project properly relative to the product of the project context. This is a concept that is second nature to executives and decision makers with budgetary and performance responsibility, yet it is a concept that is elusive and can seemingly contradict good project management. And the flip side of the story for a project of a different context would also be true.
It is not that a project that has nothing but green is wrong. Rather that project management techniques are a means to and end (not the end) and they need to be applied in a manner that that is appropriate for the situation at hand. Great comment and perspective. Thanks for sharing..!

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