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If an organization your working with not valuing you as a certified PMP ; what shell you do ?

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MAHMOD JALAL ALJAWAHEREY Project manager| Al Rumaillah Group USA Kansas, United States
As many organization are not valuing or supporting them PMP staff/team.

What an PMI PMP members shell do to deal with such situation?
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Educate your leaders in the value of disciplined project management and certifications and if nothing changes, decide if you wish to continue to work in that organization...

Kiron
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
I do not remember to work inside an organization that valued my as a PMI´s PMP certified after more than 20 years to get the certification and working with organizations that belongs to the whole world. But perhaps, the key question is: what does mean value for you? Most: what does mean value for the organization? Remember: value is a subjective matter.
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Michael Hilbert Director of Project Management| TuWay Communications Bethlehem, Pa, United States
Demonstrate the value of the project management on several of your projects using examples of the tools and techniques that you applied and the results you achieved by their use (or the consequences had you not used them). Good Luck Mahmod

Mike
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
I agree with Sergio that the most important question is what is valued by the organization. I have seen a great difference of opinion between the value of PMP certification in the exact same team and job role, simply due to a management change alone.

Some see PMs as people who go around asking others for status. Others see them as people who document processes and information. Yet others see PMs as people who lead problem solving efforts. Different organizations have different needs. Different managers may have already formed expectations for what a PM does based on prior experience and whether that provides value.

I have enough experience and techniques, that I am able to move from one organization to another and then usually move from team member to leader very quickly by demonstrating my value to the team. On some occasions however, I have found that managers consider a PM little more than a clerical position, their opinions are set, and I have moved to where my problem solving sills are valued instead of continuing to fight a losing battle.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Mehmod, when this question comes to mind that's mean you've been already tapped out, don't waste time with them on false hope, time to search for another company.
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Ravi Kishan Paliwal Project Manager - UKI| IBM India Pvt Ltd New Delhi, Delhi, India
Agree with Kiron and Riyadh
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Milind Patil Bangalore, Karnataka, India
I experienced same case in India as well. PMP is plus but not important. Companies here have very little importance of having PMP PMs. They are Ok if one does not have that title. It is not mandatory.

While I recently observed that most of the PM positions in US require PMP mandatory. This is huge difference.

We don't have to show value forcibly. Having PMP itself is enough I think. Most of the mature organizations know benefits of having PMP project managers. But still they don't show interest of having them. The strange thing I hear is " NOWDAYS ANYBODY CAN ACHIEVE PMP". It really hurts.

Actually we as PMs should promote importance of having PMP managers on projects in respective organisations.

Searching other companies is good option but JD at least should mention PMP to enter.

My question is if there is value in other stuffs then why PMP. Non PMPs are also accepted in companies.
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Sumeet Chavan Project Manager| ThumbStack Technologies Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
Value of PM is different for different organisation. For some, PM is just a guy who takes status reports and facilitate meetings and for some, PM is the one who leads project. I agree with all the comments above that if you think your work is undervalued and you want an organisation that value you, then find one.
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Bala Sripada Hyderabad, Ap, India
Mahmood,

I agree with Michael and definitely with Riyadh as well. First you try as Michel suggested. If thats not working then what Riyadh said is correct- do not waste much time
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Drew Craig Sr. Agile & Product Coach| Vanguard Philadelphia, Pa, United States
Own your future. If unhappy in current situation, look elsewhere so you are. Empower yourself.
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