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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
Project Management Institute Announces Acquisition of Disciplined Agile.
I've just found the following press release:

https://www.pmi.org/about/press-media/pres...sciplined-agile

Any comments or thoughts?
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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
Aug 15, 2019 4:57 PM
Replying to Drew Craig
You saw the announcement the day before! :)
Will be great to have a button to merge both discussions.
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Anthony Mersino Enterprise Agile Coach | Agile Trainer | Teaming Specialist| Vitality Chicago Inc. Northfield, Il, United States
Hi all, I was very interested when I saw the announcement about PMI and Disciplined Agile. The intersection of the two (PMI and agile) has always been interesting to me and has been the focus of most of my writing in this forum.

I had a chance to talk with DA co-founder Scott Ambler about the PMI acquisition and the future of DA within PMI, and impacts on certifications. It seems like it is going to be positive for both organizations and I predict we will see an "Agile Body of Knowledge" coming out of PMI shortly.

You can learn more about my analysis and predictions in my detailed article here: https://vitalitychicago.com/blog/the-impac...ciplined-agile/

Cheers,
Anthony
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Aug 19, 2019 11:01 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Anthony, This is a very interesting article. I just noticed you mentioned the following:

“Scott said that he considers DA an Agile BOK for software development.”

Is DA really heavily IT or Software Development based ?
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Wade Harshman Scrum Master| GDIT Indianapolis, In, United States
I'm not sure what to make of it. Time will tell.

The cynics are already out there saying "If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em." There may be some truth to that. It's no secret that PMI has been struggling with Agile, and many prominent Agilists view PMI with contempt. I hope that, counter to the cynics, this is a way for PMI to adapt and grow, not just to acquire and dominate.

Right now I just have more questions. DAD purports to be an open framework, so what does their acquisition mean for PMI and DAD? Will PMI keep it open, and if so, what benefit does this bring PMI? Will this be incorporated into the PMI-ACP, or is this an acknowledgement that the PMI-ACP hasn't taken off the way we'd hoped? Will PMI use DAD to challenge SAFe?
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 18, 2019 10:30 AM
Replying to Anthony Mersino
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Hi all, I was very interested when I saw the announcement about PMI and Disciplined Agile. The intersection of the two (PMI and agile) has always been interesting to me and has been the focus of most of my writing in this forum.

I had a chance to talk with DA co-founder Scott Ambler about the PMI acquisition and the future of DA within PMI, and impacts on certifications. It seems like it is going to be positive for both organizations and I predict we will see an "Agile Body of Knowledge" coming out of PMI shortly.

You can learn more about my analysis and predictions in my detailed article here: https://vitalitychicago.com/blog/the-impac...ciplined-agile/

Cheers,
Anthony
Anthony, This is a very interesting article. I just noticed you mentioned the following:

“Scott said that he considers DA an Agile BOK for software development.”

Is DA really heavily IT or Software Development based ?
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2 replies by Anthony Mersino and Kiron Bondale
Aug 19, 2019 11:39 AM
Kiron Bondale
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DA is definitely technology-focused but the process decision making framework of DAD could be extended fairly easily to cover non-technology initiatives as well.

Kiron
Aug 20, 2019 7:39 AM
Anthony Mersino
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Hi Rami, you raise a good point. As I mentioned in the article, I am no expert on Disciplined Agile. My read of the DA site reflects that it is very much directed to SW Development or IT. And in fact, here is what it says on the DA site:

"Disciplined Agile Delivery (DAD) is a people-first, learning-oriented hybrid agile approach to IT solution delivery"

Scott did mention Lean Startup which might imply something other than IT. But I think the focus is on technology.

Is your question about whether you can have an AgileBoK that doesn't address all needs of PMs or work outside IT?

Thanks,
Anthony
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Aug 19, 2019 11:01 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Anthony, This is a very interesting article. I just noticed you mentioned the following:

“Scott said that he considers DA an Agile BOK for software development.”

Is DA really heavily IT or Software Development based ?
DA is definitely technology-focused but the process decision making framework of DAD could be extended fairly easily to cover non-technology initiatives as well.

Kiron
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Aug 19, 2019 11:44 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Interesting - This makes me feel like PMI is focused on IT / Software project management more than anything else.
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 19, 2019 11:39 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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DA is definitely technology-focused but the process decision making framework of DAD could be extended fairly easily to cover non-technology initiatives as well.

Kiron
Interesting - This makes me feel like PMI is focused on IT / Software project management more than anything else.
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1 reply by Wade Harshman
Aug 19, 2019 3:26 PM
Wade Harshman
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If all I had to go by was online forums like LinkedIn or this page, I'd think the same thing.

I have no insider knowledge, but I suspect some of this is a result of PMI trying to expand into an industry (IT) where they're not as well represented, and sometimes actively disliked. Perhaps they're making similar efforts in other industries (construction, pharma, etc.) and I simply don't see it because I'm not there.
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Wade Harshman Scrum Master| GDIT Indianapolis, In, United States
Aug 19, 2019 11:44 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Interesting - This makes me feel like PMI is focused on IT / Software project management more than anything else.
If all I had to go by was online forums like LinkedIn or this page, I'd think the same thing.

I have no insider knowledge, but I suspect some of this is a result of PMI trying to expand into an industry (IT) where they're not as well represented, and sometimes actively disliked. Perhaps they're making similar efforts in other industries (construction, pharma, etc.) and I simply don't see it because I'm not there.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Aug 20, 2019 11:57 AM
Rami Kaibni
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I hear your point Wade but PMI as a project management organization should not be bias towards a certain industry and if they are over represented in an industry, it is the IT Industry and I find that they are under represented in others like Healthcare and Construction.
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Anthony Mersino Enterprise Agile Coach | Agile Trainer | Teaming Specialist| Vitality Chicago Inc. Northfield, Il, United States
Aug 19, 2019 11:01 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Anthony, This is a very interesting article. I just noticed you mentioned the following:

“Scott said that he considers DA an Agile BOK for software development.”

Is DA really heavily IT or Software Development based ?
Hi Rami, you raise a good point. As I mentioned in the article, I am no expert on Disciplined Agile. My read of the DA site reflects that it is very much directed to SW Development or IT. And in fact, here is what it says on the DA site:

"Disciplined Agile Delivery (DAD) is a people-first, learning-oriented hybrid agile approach to IT solution delivery"

Scott did mention Lean Startup which might imply something other than IT. But I think the focus is on technology.

Is your question about whether you can have an AgileBoK that doesn't address all needs of PMs or work outside IT?

Thanks,
Anthony
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Aug 20, 2019 11:59 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Thanks Anthony. I am excited that PMI acquired DA as D was on my radar but my concern is PMI becoming bias towards a certain industry like IT / Software Development. I am not sure if this is their strategy or not but we shall wait and see - I have no clarity on this for now.
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 19, 2019 3:26 PM
Replying to Wade Harshman
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If all I had to go by was online forums like LinkedIn or this page, I'd think the same thing.

I have no insider knowledge, but I suspect some of this is a result of PMI trying to expand into an industry (IT) where they're not as well represented, and sometimes actively disliked. Perhaps they're making similar efforts in other industries (construction, pharma, etc.) and I simply don't see it because I'm not there.
I hear your point Wade but PMI as a project management organization should not be bias towards a certain industry and if they are over represented in an industry, it is the IT Industry and I find that they are under represented in others like Healthcare and Construction.
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1 reply by Wade Harshman
Aug 20, 2019 12:54 PM
Wade Harshman
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I'd be interested to know what kind of data PMI has on this. It may not be as simple as it sounds, though. IT spans almost every industry, for example, and PMs can be tasked across a wide variety of projects, so a healthcare PM could potentially support an IT project.

I thought I'd be able to find something from PMI, but I haven't found it yet. The closest thing I can find is this "Project Manager of the Future" from 2018 (link below). On page 11, it shows that more PMs are practicing "lean agile" (I hate that term) and Scrum than "waterfall" (I hate that term, too). Kanban is a close 4th, after waterfall. Perhaps this sheds some light on why PMI is investing so much in Agile.

https://www.pmi.org/-/media/pmi/documents/...sc_lang_temp=en


Certainly PMI needs to expand and adapt, but my fear for PMI, as I've often stated, is that they'll focus so much on what others (agilists) are already doing that they'll lose focus of the things PMI has done very well (predictive life cycles).
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 20, 2019 7:39 AM
Replying to Anthony Mersino
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Hi Rami, you raise a good point. As I mentioned in the article, I am no expert on Disciplined Agile. My read of the DA site reflects that it is very much directed to SW Development or IT. And in fact, here is what it says on the DA site:

"Disciplined Agile Delivery (DAD) is a people-first, learning-oriented hybrid agile approach to IT solution delivery"

Scott did mention Lean Startup which might imply something other than IT. But I think the focus is on technology.

Is your question about whether you can have an AgileBoK that doesn't address all needs of PMs or work outside IT?

Thanks,
Anthony
Thanks Anthony. I am excited that PMI acquired DA as D was on my radar but my concern is PMI becoming bias towards a certain industry like IT / Software Development. I am not sure if this is their strategy or not but we shall wait and see - I have no clarity on this for now.
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