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The P's of Mentoring

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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
When new members are integrated into the project team, it is normal for the Project Manager to be their mentor
Do you usually practice the 3 P's of mentoring?
- Patience
- Practice
- Persevere

Do you want to share your experience in this field with us?
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 02, 2020 7:58 PM
Replying to Adrian Carlogea
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Mentorship:
"the activity of giving a younger or less experienced person help and advice over a period of time, especially at work or school"

Hi Luis

You are starting with the assumption that ALWAYS the new team member is less experienced than the PM. This is not true in most cases.

As Peter has already said the mentor must be from the same profession as the one that is being mentored otherwise this would not work. In an engineering project, for example, a very experienced PM can't mentor an entry level engineer if the PM is not himself an experienced engineer in the field of the entry level engineer.

The PM can be a mentor for a new project team members in the following situations:

1) the new team member is an entry level project management specialist that is being assigned to the project as some sort of project coordinator or junior/assistant PM
2) the PM is also an experienced SME in the field of the new team member, and the new team member is less experienced in that field.

In addition if the new team member aspires to become a PM or becoming a PM is a promotion then also he can be mentored by the project manager.

If becoming a PM is not on the normal career path of the new team member then it would be a waste of time to try to mentor him in project management.
Dear Adrian
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

We agree.
The Project Manager cannot always be a mentor.

An interesting topic for debate is whether the Project Manager does not have to have knowledge in the domain in which the projects are carried out

What is your opinion about the mentoring P's? (whether done by the project manager or any other experienced person)
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 02, 2020 11:20 PM
Replying to Mushtaq Abdulrahimzai
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It depends on the project and organization, and the complexity of the project.
Dear Ahmad
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

What is your opinion about the mentoring P's? (whether done by the project manager or any other experienced person)
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Daire Guiney Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Feb 02, 2020 3:44 PM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

We touched on coaching versus mentoring on previous posts. I would not see it as standard practice for newly inducted team members to have the project manager as their mentor. Sometimes they maybe budded up with a more experienced team member. Mentoring is more about talent management and identifying someone who is at an early stage in their career who has potential and assigning an person of experience to develop this potential into tangible results. As for practicing the 3P's, normally people are assigned to mentors based on the mentors personality and their own personality. Mentors may take different approaches to unlock potential that does involve a degree of patience and perseverance and that requires commitment from both parties involved.

Daire
Dear Luis,

I find in these modern times a readiness to dilute things that from what there are and bringing them into the mainstream. I would stick by my original point and say mentoring is the exception not the norm and what is more common in the work place is either coaching, training or simply helping out your fellow work colleague who is new to the team. Nothing out of the ordinary; all in a days work.

Daire
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 03, 2020 6:58 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Daire
Thank you for your opinion

Just different approaches

I was fortunate to have a mentor who not only shared technical aspects with me but also behavioral ones
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Feb 03, 2020 3:55 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Thomas
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Is there a difference between mentoring and coaching for you?
Luis,

yes, mentoring and coaching are different in most definitions, and there are different views too.

For me, mentoring is a 1:1 longterm relationship based on mutual trust with the goal of individual development and independent feedback. Trust is better built if mentor and mentee have no other (professional or private) relationship, so there is no conflict of interest or reluctance to share problems. Hence I say project managers should not be mentors of team members.

In contrast, I see coaching as 1:n (n could be 1) activity to close skill or knowledge gaps in a professional role. It not necessarily is based on trust, though this would help. It is rather based on a business need. All project managers must be able to coach in order to help team members understand and fullfil their roles. We use external coaches to convey abilities to the team/individuals. We use career coaches to analyse where people stand, develop a career path for them and select the appropriate steps to close the gaps.

I am currently (and always was) mentoring up to 10 people from areas where I have no insights in their professional knowledge, for example a game designer looking for job or a apprentice refugee coping with German culture and language or a soldier trying to understand global culture.
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Feb 03, 2020 7:01 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Thomas
Thank you for your opinion

I was fortunate to have a mentor who not only shared technical aspects with me but also behavioral ones

A person always available (and patient) to share with me how much he knew
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 03, 2020 4:26 AM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

I find in these modern times a readiness to dilute things that from what there are and bringing them into the mainstream. I would stick by my original point and say mentoring is the exception not the norm and what is more common in the work place is either coaching, training or simply helping out your fellow work colleague who is new to the team. Nothing out of the ordinary; all in a days work.

Daire
Dear Daire
Thank you for your opinion

Just different approaches

I was fortunate to have a mentor who not only shared technical aspects with me but also behavioral ones
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1 reply by Daire Guiney
Feb 03, 2020 9:46 AM
Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

Different approaches require different solutions, but ultimately the result trying to be achieved by coaching is skilling up while mentoring is more focusing on personal development.

Daire
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 03, 2020 6:05 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Luis,

yes, mentoring and coaching are different in most definitions, and there are different views too.

For me, mentoring is a 1:1 longterm relationship based on mutual trust with the goal of individual development and independent feedback. Trust is better built if mentor and mentee have no other (professional or private) relationship, so there is no conflict of interest or reluctance to share problems. Hence I say project managers should not be mentors of team members.

In contrast, I see coaching as 1:n (n could be 1) activity to close skill or knowledge gaps in a professional role. It not necessarily is based on trust, though this would help. It is rather based on a business need. All project managers must be able to coach in order to help team members understand and fullfil their roles. We use external coaches to convey abilities to the team/individuals. We use career coaches to analyse where people stand, develop a career path for them and select the appropriate steps to close the gaps.

I am currently (and always was) mentoring up to 10 people from areas where I have no insights in their professional knowledge, for example a game designer looking for job or a apprentice refugee coping with German culture and language or a soldier trying to understand global culture.
Dear Thomas
Thank you for your opinion

I was fortunate to have a mentor who not only shared technical aspects with me but also behavioral ones

A person always available (and patient) to share with me how much he knew
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Daire Guiney Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Feb 03, 2020 6:58 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Daire
Thank you for your opinion

Just different approaches

I was fortunate to have a mentor who not only shared technical aspects with me but also behavioral ones
Dear Luis,

Different approaches require different solutions, but ultimately the result trying to be achieved by coaching is skilling up while mentoring is more focusing on personal development.

Daire
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2 replies by Daire Guiney and Luis Branco
Feb 03, 2020 10:03 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Daire
Thank you for your opinion
Interesting what you wrote: "Different approaches require different solutions"
Feb 03, 2020 11:17 AM
Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

Sometimes you may have a convergence of solutions but a dilution of requirements.

Daire
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 03, 2020 9:46 AM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

Different approaches require different solutions, but ultimately the result trying to be achieved by coaching is skilling up while mentoring is more focusing on personal development.

Daire
Dear Daire
Thank you for your opinion
Interesting what you wrote: "Different approaches require different solutions"
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Daire Guiney Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Feb 03, 2020 9:46 AM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

Different approaches require different solutions, but ultimately the result trying to be achieved by coaching is skilling up while mentoring is more focusing on personal development.

Daire
Dear Luis,

Sometimes you may have a convergence of solutions but a dilution of requirements.

Daire
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Luis,

I would certainly not expect the PM to be mentoring someone in the team. I can see the PM suggesting sponsorship from a team member for a new team member.

A mentor is from my experience not in the same project, generally not in the corporation.

Your three P's of Mentoring can apply to mentor, not to the PM or the sponsor of a new team member or not really.
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