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Yasmine -
Depends on the approach used to deliver the project. If it lends itself to a predictive approach then a WBS works fine with requirements captured either in an online repository (e.g. Confluence) or a standalone document. On the other hand, if it is better delivered using an adaptive approach then a user story map is one approach to exploring scope and can be done using either a virtual collaboration tool such as Miro or a dedicated user story mapping tool. The resulting work items could then be captured in any reasonable work management tool such as Trello, JIRA or Azure DevOps. Kiron ...
1 reply by Yasmine Kuttab
Dec 21, 2023 8:36 PM
Yasmine Kuttab
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Thank you, Kiron. I'm interested in seeing if there is a software or platform that can automate our scoping. This is greatly appreciated!
Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
We use WBS for our projects which we deliver using a Hybrid Approach and it works well with us.
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1 reply by Yasmine Kuttab
Dec 21, 2023 8:37 PM
Yasmine Kuttab
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Thank you, Rami. We currently use a WBS but are trying to streamline and automate the scoping process for our business development team. Presently the work is done manually in Excel so I'm curious to know if there's a program/tool/software that you use for the WBS.
Yasmine Kuttab
Washington, Dc, USA
Dec 21, 2023 3:02 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Yasmine -
Depends on the approach used to deliver the project. If it lends itself to a predictive approach then a WBS works fine with requirements captured either in an online repository (e.g. Confluence) or a standalone document. On the other hand, if it is better delivered using an adaptive approach then a user story map is one approach to exploring scope and can be done using either a virtual collaboration tool such as Miro or a dedicated user story mapping tool. The resulting work items could then be captured in any reasonable work management tool such as Trello, JIRA or Azure DevOps. Kiron ...
1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Dec 22, 2023 7:09 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Yasmine -While there are dedicated WBS tools and some which plug-in to scheduling tools such as MS Project, I do find that developing your scope collaboratively with the team and other stakeholders where they all have the opportunity to work with the tool creates better buy-in than having the PM or a scribe be the only person "touching" the scope elements. This is why I prefer collaboration tools such as Miro where everyone can participate and then the content can be output into an Excel spreadsheet. Kiron
Yasmine Kuttab
Washington, Dc, USA
Dec 21, 2023 7:24 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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We use WBS for our projects which we deliver using a Hybrid Approach and it works well with us.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 21, 2023 9:58 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I honestly haven't used a program to run the WBS.
Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 21, 2023 8:37 PM
Replying to Yasmine Kuttab
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Thank you, Rami. We currently use a WBS but are trying to streamline and automate the scoping process for our business development team. Presently the work is done manually in Excel so I'm curious to know if there's a program/tool/software that you use for the WBS.
Yasmine, you can take 2 perspectives: the product scope (the deliverables) and the project scope (the work to create the product). The first, scoping starts with requirements and there are many tools (like IBM Doors used often in automotive) to maintain them. From there you will design a project often top-down, getting more detailed and more requirements over time. The tools here depend on the product or industry (take BIM in construction). Scrum backlog is an example too.
Breaking down the work is important for scheduling and cost estimation. A WBS is in any type of project useful. Its main purpose is to communicate graphically what the project team has to work on.
Sergio Luis Conte
Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Important thing is to take into account that you have two scopes: product scope and project scope. From product scope the project scope is defined. So, there are lot of tools of plugins to tools like Azure DevOps that creates the project scope from features/user stories just in case you use it.
Dec 21, 2023 8:36 PM
Replying to Yasmine Kuttab
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Thank you, Kiron. I'm interested in seeing if there is a software or platform that can automate our scoping. This is greatly appreciated!
While there are dedicated WBS tools and some which plug-in to scheduling tools such as MS Project, I do find that developing your scope collaboratively with the team and other stakeholders where they all have the opportunity to work with the tool creates better buy-in than having the PM or a scribe be the only person "touching" the scope elements. This is why I prefer collaboration tools such as Miro where everyone can participate and then the content can be output into an Excel spreadsheet. Kiron
Yasmine Kuttab, can you provide more information on your current process and what you want to automate? This would make it easier to determine if there is a tool that does what you're looking for, or if there is a way to get AI to do it.
Keith Novak
Tukwila, Wa, USA
You first need to define what you mean by scope, and what you are trying to automate as Aaron suggests.
I look at scope as broader than the WBS. It includes things like a clear description of the problem. the boundaries to your solution space, and some conceptual idea of how you are solving the problem, all of which become the WBS. That can be defined in a format like model based systems engineering which facilitates automation because the information can be linked together in logical ways. As far as automating some function relating to scope, you must first define which functions such as identifying impacts, cost estimation of the baseline and changes, etc.br type="_moz" |
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