Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
If you want to hire a Project Manager through putting an advertisement online (Such as on Craigslist), what would you include in the job posting ?
For example, would you include the exact Duties & Responsibilities or leave this to the intelligence of the PM assuming a good PM knows his duties and responsibilities.
What other details would you include in the posting ? Saving Changes...
I would include why the role is interesting: Why should the candidate be interested in the position – what’s in it for the candidate, along with a summary of the role’s duties & responsibilities.
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2 replies by Patrick Dicey and Rami Kaibni
Nov 18, 2016 1:06 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Good Point Mauro - Why the candiate should be interested is definitely very important.
Nov 22, 2016 2:23 PM
Patrick Dicey
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This is a good one, as with PMs I feel they are probably more selective than the average job candidate.
Personally, I like to know about the technology involved with the project (this is what makes it interesting to me), the size of the team involved, and dollar value of the project/portfolio.
Travel requirements are likely to be a discerning factor as well and vary greatly between PM roles.
Good luck finding a good candidate! If you have an opportunity for a PM who can work out of Orlando then let me know :)
A brief description of the job followed by role's duties & responsibilities, good to have and required skills (technical, professional, academic), and any other information as job demands (for e.g. rotational shifts, working in different time zones)
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 18, 2016 1:07 AM
Rami Kaibni
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The precise nature of the work is importsnt, I agree with you Anupam. It helps getting candiates that fits the requirements.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 17, 2016 9:41 PM
Replying to Mauro Sotille
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I would include why the role is interesting: Why should the candidate be interested in the position – what’s in it for the candidate, along with a summary of the role’s duties & responsibilities.
Good Point Mauro - Why the candiate should be interested is definitely very important. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 17, 2016 10:51 PM
Replying to Anupam
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A brief description of the job followed by role's duties & responsibilities, good to have and required skills (technical, professional, academic), and any other information as job demands (for e.g. rotational shifts, working in different time zones)
The precise nature of the work is importsnt, I agree with you Anupam. It helps getting candiates that fits the requirements. Saving Changes...
Product Operations Program ManagerBarcelona, Cataluña, Spain
What I sometimes find is that the description of the job describes the typical functions of the PM, i.e. manage project schedule, budget, stakeholders, etc. I believe that it might be more relevant to provide higher detail such as (projects of 1 to 2 years, with a budget of 10 to 20 MM €, etc.). This narrows down the eligible applicants and makes the hiring process more efficient.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 18, 2016 12:04 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I totally agree with you Eduard. This is what I am leaning towards doing. Mentioning high level information instead of the usual D & R's (I will leave those to the PM's intelligence).
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
As someone who had to do hiring in the federal government, I usually define a statement of qualifications (SOQ) that breaks down my staffing requirements into: mandatory, rated and desirable.
The mandatory requirements are the minimum requirements you need before you will consider a candidate further. These usually include minimum education and experience levels.
The rated requirements are the skills, experience and aptitudes you will assess, using tests and/or interviews. Rated requirements can range from education to demonstrated skills.
Finally, the desirable requirements are used to distinguish and separate candidates that are otherwise equivalent. These should only ever be used to settle ties.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 18, 2016 12:06 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Thanks for your input Stephane. I've always done what you've exactly mentioned but noticed that most of the time you get approached by the wrong candidates so I thought of trying to reduce the amount of descriptions and stick to high level information like Eduard said.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 18, 2016 7:03 AM
Replying to Eduard Hernandez
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What I sometimes find is that the description of the job describes the typical functions of the PM, i.e. manage project schedule, budget, stakeholders, etc. I believe that it might be more relevant to provide higher detail such as (projects of 1 to 2 years, with a budget of 10 to 20 MM €, etc.). This narrows down the eligible applicants and makes the hiring process more efficient.
I totally agree with you Eduard. This is what I am leaning towards doing. Mentioning high level information instead of the usual D & R's (I will leave those to the PM's intelligence).
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1 reply by Riaan Fischer
Nov 24, 2016 3:50 AM
Riaan Fischer
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Agreed, especially if you are looking for a candidate to fulfill an autonomous role. Also, company background and culture must be clearly stated for the individual to decide if they will fit in.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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As someone who had to do hiring in the federal government, I usually define a statement of qualifications (SOQ) that breaks down my staffing requirements into: mandatory, rated and desirable.
The mandatory requirements are the minimum requirements you need before you will consider a candidate further. These usually include minimum education and experience levels.
The rated requirements are the skills, experience and aptitudes you will assess, using tests and/or interviews. Rated requirements can range from education to demonstrated skills.
Finally, the desirable requirements are used to distinguish and separate candidates that are otherwise equivalent. These should only ever be used to settle ties.
Thanks for your input Stephane. I've always done what you've exactly mentioned but noticed that most of the time you get approached by the wrong candidates so I thought of trying to reduce the amount of descriptions and stick to high level information like Eduard said.
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
It depends on the number of candidates, Rami. The higher the number, the mor details you need to sort them.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 22, 2016 2:18 PM
Rami Kaibni
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That is right, the more candidates, the more we need to be specific.
I'm actively looking for something, and I've realized that I was more attracted for ads that have following structure.
- Brief company description
- Brief role description
- Detailed (but not 2 pages) roles and responsibilities that make the position attractive, example number of team members (example Manage teams more than 25 people in matrix environment), budget (ex. projects $2M)...
- Mandatory skills (languages, pmp certification...)
- Desirable skills (work with Jira, union experiences...)
- Other info as benefits, shifts
And I was very disappointed when I've seen PROJECT MANAGER, and after the description was a sales rep role, poor role descriptions or those role descriptions that seems a copy & paste of PMBOK appendix.
Hope it helps, but remember I'm IT :) not very savy of construction requirements.
Good luck!
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 22, 2016 2:19 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Maria, Thanks for your feedback :D
This is very useful feedback coming from personal experience. We are hiring project managers but kept the advertisement short for now.