Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
Since you mention sponsorship, I assume you're referring to a project that requires you to relocate abroad, instead of a project involving international stakeholders. I’m looking for such a project myself, and it seems large multinational corporations are the best bet, since they are used to the intricacies involved with hiring foreign workers. Working for a Big Four consulting company is an option as well. Since you have a programming background, give TopTal a try (https://www.toptal.com/). They offer 100% remote jobs you can do from anywhere in the world. It’s the best option, as it gives you freedom to live wherever you want.
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Mar 13, 2017 5:54 PM
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Thank you Eric for your comments. Yes, I am referring to relocating to different country. I am curious of the process. You may be correct about the multinational corporations and the Big Four. I believe networking would be the key in aligning with those options. The TopTal would be a great option, if you wanted to program remotely. I do not see any options like TopTal for Project Managers... have you seen options?
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Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
Since you mention sponsorship, I assume you're referring to a project that requires you to relocate abroad, instead of a project involving international stakeholders.
I’m looking for such a project myself, and it seems large multinational corporations are the best bet, since they are used to the intricacies involved with hiring foreign workers. Working for a Big Four consulting company is an option as well.
Since you have a programming background, give TopTal a try (https://www.toptal.com/). They offer 100% remote jobs you can do from anywhere in the world. It’s the best option, as it gives you freedom to live wherever you want. Saving Changes...
I have got proposal to do it, but condition are less and less attractive!
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Mar 13, 2017 5:55 PM
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Ok, I would like to hear the proposal and the condition.
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Sean HullProgram & Project Management | ConsultingArlington, Va, United States
The problem with trying to go at this from the U.S. or with a large U.S. multinational is that 1) there are others already "in line" and 2) most countries already have a pool of talented, LOCALLY EXPERIENCED, PM talent. What I did was to find talent agencies / headhunters in the countries / industries you are interested in and then pitch them (including why you v. local talent.) It needs to be compelling because, then, getting the required visas/permits is not easy nor cheap. Ping me if you have any questions.
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Mar 13, 2017 5:56 PM
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Thank you Sean. It sounds like you have done this already. I will ping you.
For example, I was leading a project in France, but as I'm European I hadn't any visa or sponsorship request.
Are you targeting your question only for US citizens that need a passport and visa to work in some countries?
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1 reply by Demetrius Williams
Mar 13, 2017 6:00 PM
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Hi Mayte, my question was not only for US citizens since I am sure the process may be similar for a person who lives in France or Qtar and wants to work in another country.
Since you mention sponsorship, I assume you're referring to a project that requires you to relocate abroad, instead of a project involving international stakeholders. I’m looking for such a project myself, and it seems large multinational corporations are the best bet, since they are used to the intricacies involved with hiring foreign workers. Working for a Big Four consulting company is an option as well. Since you have a programming background, give TopTal a try (https://www.toptal.com/). They offer 100% remote jobs you can do from anywhere in the world. It’s the best option, as it gives you freedom to live wherever you want.
Thank you Eric for your comments. Yes, I am referring to relocating to different country. I am curious of the process. You may be correct about the multinational corporations and the Big Four. I believe networking would be the key in aligning with those options. The TopTal would be a great option, if you wanted to program remotely. I do not see any options like TopTal for Project Managers... have you seen options?
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1 reply by Eric Simms
Mar 13, 2017 6:11 PM
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I've yet to find 100% remote jobs for PMs that can be done outside the US. There are plenty of remote PM jobs on Flexjobs.com, but all the ones I've seen state the work must be performed within the US. Of course, that likely includes US territories like Guam, Puerto Rico and the U. S. Virgin Islands, so those jobs may be worth considering.
The problem with trying to go at this from the U.S. or with a large U.S. multinational is that 1) there are others already "in line" and 2) most countries already have a pool of talented, LOCALLY EXPERIENCED, PM talent. What I did was to find talent agencies / headhunters in the countries / industries you are interested in and then pitch them (including why you v. local talent.) It needs to be compelling because, then, getting the required visas/permits is not easy nor cheap. Ping me if you have any questions.
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For example, I was leading a project in France, but as I'm European I hadn't any visa or sponsorship request.
Are you targeting your question only for US citizens that need a passport and visa to work in some countries?
Hi Mayte, my question was not only for US citizens since I am sure the process may be similar for a person who lives in France or Qtar and wants to work in another country.
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2 replies by Demetrius Williams and Mayte Mata Sivera
Mar 13, 2017 6:31 PM
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"sure that the process maybe similar" This is a bad way to start...an assumption based maybe on your personal experience, but take in mind that each country has their agreements with others and Visa restrictions.
For example, we take again France as an example, for french people is easy to request for a Visa to Canada or Australia than for Spanish people. Because France has agreements with those countries.
Another example, people that want to came to the USA, is more difficult to get an H1B than in another country, because here you should prove that there were not American citizen, that can do the same job. And this means a lot of money in attorneys and documentation that international companies should include in their budget and analyze properly before to move one employee from one country to another.
I worked in the Big5 in IT, I always dreamt to came to the USA and always was the same answer, is expensive.
Lately I had friends that where relocated from China to the USA, but under the following conditions "relocation under your own expenses", when the first movement from Spain to China, was "all included"
Moving from one country to another is not easy as seems.
Mar 13, 2017 7:00 PM
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Mayte, without knowing the exact process for sure for each country... it just seems there are potentially the same obstacles attempting to work in another country. You will either have to pay your own expenses or you will be sponsored by a company. You will have to obtain a work visa. These items are similar; but the process of obtaining them may be different from country to country. This is what I am trying to understand, thus sending my question to my trusted colleagues; whom I would hope would not judge my assumption or approach; but provide guidance. When we judge others comments, it can stifle open communication. I appreciate your examples provided.
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Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
Mar 13, 2017 5:54 PM
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Thank you Eric for your comments. Yes, I am referring to relocating to different country. I am curious of the process. You may be correct about the multinational corporations and the Big Four. I believe networking would be the key in aligning with those options. The TopTal would be a great option, if you wanted to program remotely. I do not see any options like TopTal for Project Managers... have you seen options?
I've yet to find 100% remote jobs for PMs that can be done outside the US. There are plenty of remote PM jobs on Flexjobs.com, but all the ones I've seen state the work must be performed within the US. Of course, that likely includes US territories like Guam, Puerto Rico and the U. S. Virgin Islands, so those jobs may be worth considering.
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2 replies by Demetrius Williams
Mar 13, 2017 7:04 PM
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Eric, I have not seen what you describe either for PMs. Only for developers/programmers. Thanks for the website reference as well. Again, I would like to get an understanding of options and the process.
Mar 13, 2017 8:52 PM
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Eric, do you know anyone who has used or have you used this Flexjobs.com website you mentioned? If so, what was your experience using it?