Done Done and the Bag of Oranges
From the Drunken PM Blog
by Dave Prior
Drunken Boxing for Project Managers
“The main feature of the drunkard boxing is to hide combative hits in drunkard-like, unsteady movements and actions so as to confuse the opponent. The secret of this style of boxing is maintaining a clear mind while giving a drunken appearance.”
Yeah... just like that… but with network diagrams and burndown charts… and a wee bit less vodka.
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[BEGIN DISCLAIMER] This concept is not mine and I take no shame in having “borrowed” it because it works good enough to get a gig managing lighting on a Christian Bale movie. I first heard it referred to several months ago in an EMC training session that had veered off topic into deep Agile waters. James Shore uses it in his book “
The Art of Agile Development” and I’ve seen postings online referring to
Mike Cohn using it in his training classes.
[END DISCLAIMER]While it isn’t mine, it is something I’m using with increasing frequency on my projects and it has proven to be incredibly helpful in communicating with both the clients and the guys doing the development work on my projects. Here is a basic rundown of how “Done Done” works.
The Setup1. Developer says the work on given backlog item is “Done”.
2. PM tells Client that Developer is “Done” working on the item.
3. Client checks to see “Done” work, finds out that it has not been implemented.
4. Client fills bag with oranges, which are then forcefully and repeatedly applied to the stomach of the PM. (According to the late great Jim Thompson, a bag of oranges to the gut provide all the internal bleeding and none of the bruising.)
5. PM, doubled over with pain, questions Developer and determines that, from the Dev’s standpoint, “Done” meant he/she/it was no longer working on said item.
So, how do you protect yourself from ending up like Lillie in
"The Grifters"?
The FixImplement “Done Done”, which works like this: You bring all team members into a room and explain that all work will henceforth be categorized as existing in one of the following states:
1. Not Done – No one is doing anything at all with this right now.
2. In Process – Someone is doing something about this.
3. Done – Someone feels that they have completed working on something and has implemented it in a way that can be shown to someone who will have something to say about it.
4. Done Done – Work has been completed, implemented, checked, confirmed and approved. And throughout the valley, there is much rejoicing at the verified completion this amazing item.
In the WildOn my current project, we have “Done”, which means the Devs declared, (usually at some point after 2 AM) that they had completed their work on said item. “Done Done” means that they have not only “Done” the work, but they have shown it to Damon. (Damon is the guy on the client side that we’ve designated as the
Zuul of “Done Done”.) So, without Damon’s blessing, they are forbidden from declaring anything to be “Done Done”, unless they want to experience the bag of oranges.
Steering Clear of Bobo JustusIf you happen to be suffering from repeated encounters with the aforementioned bag of oranges, then I’d highly recommending giving “Done Done” a try.
Posted on: February 16, 2009 12:30 AM |
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 | jessefewell |
I''ve been bitten many times by incomplete work that was declared to be "Done"...but I can assure you that fruit was never involved.
Hans Robbers
Senior Director| Salesforce
Vlissingen, Netherlands
Thans for the insight. Done Done is worth a try. And if even that fails I suggest a plastic bag around the oranges to have a nice fresh orange juice at the end of the beating
Al Taylor
I.T. Contractor| Independent
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
An alternative to relacing Done with Done Done could be "Show me don't tell me."
Naomi Caietti
Senior Project Manager | ePMO | Higher Education | Healthcare & IT| Linkedin.com/In/NaomiCaietti
Interesting, sounds like a situation leadership model: Tell, Sell, Consult, Join and Delegate. Accountability must be built in along the way to devisionmakers with authority otherwise, everyone will be sitting around eating that nice bag of oranges until their done.
~N.
Raven Young
Senior Project Manager| RavensBrain.com
Seattle, Wa, United States
Interesting concept - whatever process works! Some PM's keep work at 90% until done IS, where as this model allows for done, and then Done Done - allows for a greater sense of accomplishment, a bonus for devs when working in Tech.
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