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This gets my blood boiling every time.

People with honest questions about the PMP exam getting led astray.

It's a Good Question

Alex has a good chance of having the experience required since he stated he has managed projects - but how many hours of actually managing projects?  It's unclear.

Then this response comes in:

Really?

I don't know if this is just ignorance or if Nymph is a PMP training provider trying to snag a new student.

And frankly I don't care - this is the wrong answer.

There is no way from Alex' question that anyone could say "I am glad to inform you that you are eligible to take the PMP examination..."

It's clear from Alex' initial question that not all of his experience is directly managing projects, perhaps even less than half. We don't have enough information to tell.

From Page 8 of the PMP Handbook (http://www.pmi.org/Certification/~/media/PDF/Certifications/pdc_pmphandbook.ashx):

The only way you'll know if you qualify or not is by documenting your specific experience and total it up.

My experience log template helps with that, and there are many others available with a quick google search. 

http://pmstudent.com/pmp-experience-log/

 

So Please

Training providers and people just trying to be helpful, make sure you aren't over-reaching.

Make sure you have your facts straight.

Direct people to the sources of information like the PMI website and PMP Handbook.

Don't make declarations and give people false hope ( or false negatory statements) when you can't possibly know what you're talking about with respect to their specific career experiences.

Give them the tools so they can figure this out for themselves.

It's the only real way to do it.

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Leave a comment and tell me I'm full of it, or agree with me. Whatever. I'm just glad to have gotten that off my chest. :-)

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Posted on: September 01, 2012 01:47 PM | Permalink

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Anonymous
I perfectly agree with you though I am of a view that PMI needs to relax the requirements as regards the number of years of project experience.This will discourage the "doctoring" or "packaging" of experience by those desirous of sitting for the PMP examination.


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Josh Nankivel Engineering Project Manager| Apple Sioux Falls, Sd, United States
I think there's possibly a need for an interim certification, but actually the CAPM is supposed to be that.

I don't think relaxing the requirements will help either the reputation of the PMP or the people who have earned the certification.

jellybn999
I agree with Josh...I dont think the PMP requirements should be relaxed... although I think there could even be a certification somewhere between CAPM and PMP which is where I stand...I have almost 15 years of PjM support experience (Asst PjM, scheduling) but more extensive experience than that which is described under the CAPM requirements but less than the PMP.

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Becky Parson Director, Unified Communication| Sutter Health Fair Oaks, Ca, United States
I totally agree Josh.
I think this effort in documenting hours took more mental energy than I originally planned. I used excel spreadsheets to pull it together which helped greatly when I filled in the actual application.
If you have not been a practicing PM, the hours can be tricky to justify.


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